You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.
Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.
She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.
Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.
Attraction runs on a clock.
She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.
The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."
One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.
Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.
True that. THough some would say that the French did what they did for "pragmatic" reasons.Latinoman said:If you don't live in a life based on self-respect...then you might as well end like the French back in WWII: on your knees.
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
Although I couldn't see the obvious connection you implied between WWII, French, and the theory (!) in question, I believe "living a life on self-respect" is not at all dependent on creating a protective aura arond the woman ( which is exactly what you are implying by "not contributing toward others disrespecting you")Latinoman said:I personally don't care if a man hits on my woman. She is HOT...she is going to be hit on.
However, I care if the man KNOWING she is with me hits on her and she CONTRIBUTES toward him hitting on her. Because it is clear he has no respect for me and she is contributing toward that. I also care if a man starts hitting on my woman in front of ME...knowing very well that I am with her. Because that shows he has no respect for me.
It is about creating some boundaries.
If you don't live in a life based on self-respect...then you might as well end like the French back in WWII: on your knees.
Courting vs Directing a woman need to be differentiated.appasionata said:Although I couldn't see the obvious connection you implied between WWII, French, and the theory (!) in question, I believe "living a life on self-respect" is not at all dependent on creating a protective aura arond the woman ( which is exactly what you are implying by "not contributing toward others disrespecting you")
As Rollo always points out, ultimatums are always a sign of weakness, and this is nothing but a covert ultimatum, with threatening consequences.
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1- I never spoke of ultimatums. I spoke of covertly or even overtly sharing your boundariesappasionata said:As Rollo always points out, ultimatums are always a sign of weakness, and this is nothing but a covert ultimatum, with threatening consequences.
But what is even stronger is doing it much more covertly, and through ignorance, and with much scarce warnings. The scarces the ultimatums, the stronger they become. (Reminds me of US foreign policy these days)
Here is the list I am making reference to (#1 and #2) in the quote above.Originally Posted by Latinoman
Now…many men in here will say: “Wow…Latinoman is too controlling”
My answer is…I am not. I simply have certain expectations from the woman I have in a committed relationship with me. I don’t prohibit them from doing whatever they want (unless impact me financially or my health). I simply tell them what I consider #1 or #2 in that list. It is up to them to do it or not do it. And it is up to me to either finish the relationship or start taking the relationship less serious.
Originally Posted by Latinoman
Therefore, here are my expectations:
1- I expect her to respect me.
2- I expect her to not contribute toward others disrespecting me
Ok. Guru and you convinced me. I admit that I misunderstood the original post in some sense. In fact, when I read what you are describing here, I figure that I have been suffering from this very problem. I can't force my gf t stop crossing some red lines and every time I yield to another exception, it gets worse and worse.Latinoman said:1- I never spoke of ultimatums. I spoke of covertly or even overtly sharing your boundaries
2- I never spoke of control. I spoke of letting the person know what is your boundary (you can do that covertly or overtly)
You see? If you read my original post you will see the following
Here is the list I am making reference to (#1 and #2) in the quote above.
Try this.appasionata said:But still, I am confused in the implementation of it. Are you explicitly stating that or is it rather implied? You are writing that you don't exactly express this to her, the way you are describing it to us.
So what are some good examples to make sure she sees the red lines?
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
Thanks man.mrRuckus said:A girl i've been seeing has been telling me she's intimidated by me. I ask her why, and she says it's because she's never gone out with a guy with expectations for her. She says it's very attractive, and that she's not quite sure what to do. She's brought this up several times now.
I do have to thank Latinoman for this: "I expect her to not contribute toward others disrespecting me." Reading this thread finally gave me words to explain to her why I have some of the expectations I have.