"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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For every interaction (number) you attain, how many of them flake?

How many flakes out of the amount of numbers, on average do you get

  • 10%

    Votes: 1 5.3%
  • 20%

    Votes: 2 10.5%
  • 30%

    Votes: 3 15.8%
  • 40%

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • 50%

    Votes: 5 26.3%
  • 60%

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • 70%

    Votes: 3 15.8%
  • 80%

    Votes: 3 15.8%
  • 90%

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • 100%

    Votes: 2 10.5%

  • Total voters
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The Mad Ghost

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Just a quuick evaluation procsess of the Sosuave percentage rate on flakes. Please be as honest as possible. Include all of your interactions, online, street game pickup, social circle, work, school and college.

NOTE: Flaking - my definition of this means the following: unanswered phonecalls and texts, agreeing to meet up or hang out then bail on last minute, longevity, unsure of when she is able to meet up or uninterested in doing so, schedule date and does not attend and vanishing magic even though you have spoken after retreieving her details.

For every 10 numbers or interactions allowing me to get the phone details, I have around a 80% flake rate. Thats 8 women I just approached, interacted with face-to-face or by online methods, have fizzled out on average, with a 80% phone number aquired rate. So something needs twitching or configuring here.
 
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"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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loveshogun

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Til recently, almost none of them. Now, about 30 percent. I must be losing my edge.
 

Clark Kent

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Around 70-75% of them.

I get alot of numbers aswell though. Maybe 10 online, and another 10 in person which is why my Flake Rate is considerably higher. I take it the guys from 20-30% don't get that many numbers picking up randoms, thus having less flakes, OP included social circle, school and college too.

For any guy that goes out 3-7 times a week, getting numbers. A flake rate should really be above 50% and no more than 90%, unless you're Captain Pimpn' Pants or you just Suck At Phone Game, and didn't make a solid number.
 

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Lol. I'm at 50% but that means nothing since I'm just 1 and 1 :D
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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Clark Kent said:
^ Wut?

So 5, in every 10 women flake on you? I'd say thats average.
no, I've tried to get 2 Numbers, and succeeded, and one of them flaked.

2 so far. that's it. lol
 

blueline

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Hmmm... let's see. I got 9 numbers this semester that I actually wanted to ****. Only a couple of those numbers were totally random, and a few of them actually came out for the day 2, but no sex occurred. ****ed 3 new girls, none of them were from number closes, just SNL or social circle.
 

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So, 9/9 of girls I actually wanted to copulate with ultimately rejected me, which more or less tells me that i'm going after girls that are too hot for me. you're supposed to get better numbers from social circle.
 

terran2k

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too hot for you? you got the wrong attitude already.
 

blueline

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i mean, i've fucked a hotter girl than a few of them, but the rest of the girls I've fucked these days come nowhere close to the numbers i try to fuck. girls are DTF before you even open your mouth if you're the right guy. if you're not, well, spin the wheel again. the non-verbals of an interested girl are so completely and utterly different from a disinterested girl
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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The Mad Ghost

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Why am I getting so many Flakes, I've had over 5 in the last 1-2 weeks?

Really? I can definetely say that it was NEVER this hard to get a lay or take a girl out after getting her digits about 4-5 years ago.

HOW LONG DOES IT TAKE YOU GUYS TO GET A GIRL OUT/DAY 2 AFTER GETTING HER PHONE NUMBER?
 

Solomon

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Great fuccing thread ghost you get a rep from me

I can honestly say it's 90% flaking is just horrible for me, although as of late I don't go for numbers cause usually nothing pans out, if am in the field I'm going for something that's a "sure bet" but those girls tend to be flakey was well I now if I approach a 100 chicks (and I mean in a serious way not bullsyt) maybe I can pull of 8 dates, that's 8%

For online game I would say it's about 75%
 

Big Overseas 1

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The longer I talk to a girl when i first meet her the less they flake on me.
 

Packers2010

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i never get fake numbers. but then again i never get to many number either. so when i do get a number then girls wants to talk to me.
 
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