"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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For me going out meeting people is no problem. When I go out with buddies or lone wolf style chances are I will meet a chick and we will vibe that night. Following up after sex close or makeout close is easy because we already have that intimate connection. However, for me i struggle like a mofo following up on a plan number close. I normally meet this chicks at bars/clubs so im buzzed they are drunk/buzzed so when i talk to them afterwards its really weird and it fades away after a few days of texting.

What do you all do after you get a plain number close? i usually text two days later some c/f stuff but ive been noticing recently its not sticking. i think another part of my problem is that im really nonchalent and i dont offer to take these chicks out on a date because i really dont care that much.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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I usually wait 5-9 days and then text or call. I usually start with some c&f text stuff and then ask her out.

Getting numbers is easy. I think many of them won't work out but as you get better you will get more dates.
 

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douchebaggery4ever said:
For me going out meeting people is no problem. When I go out with buddies or lone wolf style chances are I will meet a chick and we will vibe that night. Following up after sex close or makeout close is easy because we already have that intimate connection. However, for me i struggle like a mofo following up on a plan number close. I normally meet this chicks at bars/clubs so im buzzed they are drunk/buzzed so when i talk to them afterwards its really weird and it fades away after a few days of texting.

What do you all do after you get a plain number close? i usually text two days later some c/f stuff but ive been noticing recently its not sticking. i think another part of my problem is that im really nonchalent and i dont offer to take these chicks out on a date because i really dont care that much.

if you really want to hookup with these chicks why are waiting for two days? Remember that when the two of you met you both were drunk-so between that and the fact she probably passed out her number to like ten different dudes-waiting for two days is not good-this is a situation where waiting actually hurts. so if you met her on friday call her up saturday afternoon around 3 or 4. if she likes you she wont trip and she'll like it.
 
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I usually wait 5-9 days and then text or call. I usually start with some c&f text stuff and then ask her out.

Getting numbers is easy. I think many of them won't work out but as you get better you will get more dates.

damm...you wait that long?...i always figured girls would forget who your are after a four or five days. but yea getting numbers is the easy part for me its rebuilding the connection you had in a intoxicated state at the bar.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Freeman said:
if you really want to hookup with these chicks why are waiting for two days? Remember that when the two of you met you both were drunk-so between that and the fact she probably passed out her number to like ten different dudes-waiting for two days is not good-this is a situation where waiting actually hurts. so if you met her on friday call her up saturday afternoon around 3 or 4. if she likes you she wont trip and she'll like it.
i normally hit them up the next day or day after...usually at the bar the chicks are digging me cause im not the sarging type of guy. i normally will work on one chick for the night and i build a rapport with that one girl for a long time. But usually the chick is pretty buzzed and i am too. i just struggle with getting the rapport that we had going that night. what ends up happening is a few texts back in forth for a few days and it just fades away.
 

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damm...you wait that long?...i always figured girls would forget who your are after a four or five days. but yea getting numbers is the easy part for me its rebuilding the connection you had in a intoxicated state at the bar.
If a girl is interested in you, she cannot forget you. She will wonder why you haven't called, and when and if you will ever call. While she wonders this, her interest in you will rise.

If a girl is not really interested, but just gives her number out to everyone she meets, then she will forget you, and you can thankfully get rid of her and move on to the next quickly.

If I feel that it will be difficult to 'rebuild the fun connection', then I will casually text the girl before I try to call her. Most girls I know spend 90% of their time texting. They text constantly. If I feel like the connection won't be there because I didn't have the time or foresight to build it when we met, then I text first. Since girls text so much, I think it makes you seem more normal and they will feel more comfortable with you when you ask them out. I often get the first date through a text.

I think it takes higher interest for a girl to answer the phone than to text. For me personally, when I get a phone call I feel annoyed, even before I know who it is. If I get a text however, I feel somewhat excited.
 

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Uhh....well how about not getting drunk while you're getting the number. You ever think about that? My guess is that maybe you don't have as much rappaport/of a connection as you think. I mean,how much of a connection can two people have when they're drunk? I don't think that trying to get a date with a girl while the two of you are both "under the influence" is really the way to go,hence the problem you're having.
 
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Uhh....well how about not getting drunk while you're getting the number. You ever think about that? My guess is that maybe you don't have as much rappaport/of a connection as you think. I mean,how much of a connection can two people have when they're drunk? I don't think that trying to get a date with a girl while the two of you are both "under the influence" is really the way to go,hence the problem you're having.
i dont get drunk when i go out but i do have two or three drinks. However it seems chick at bar/clubs are usually out getting drunk so i have no choice but to talk to them because they are under the influence.

also not to sound like a **** but alot of times these chicks approach me or give me strong signals to approach so i know that they are feeling me at the time..but i know half the reason is prob cause they are drinking and feeling good.
 
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If I feel that it will be difficult to 'rebuild the fun connection', then I will casually text the girl before I try to call her. Most girls I know spend 90% of their time texting. They text constantly. If I feel like the connection won't be there because I didn't have the time or foresight to build it when we met, then I text first. Since girls text so much, I think it makes you seem more normal and they will feel more comfortable with you when you ask them out. I often get the first date through a text.

I think it takes higher interest for a girl to answer the phone than to text. For me personally, when I get a phone call I feel annoyed, even before I know who it is. If I get a text however, I feel somewhat excited.

thx for the advice..i usually am the same way i hate talking on the phone unless i know them really well. how long do you usually text till you ask them out? also for that first text do you usually say "Hey this is so and so from such in such bar" or do you go straight from where you left off at?
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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douchebaggery4ever said:
i dont get drunk when i go out but i do have two or three drinks. However it seems chick at bar/clubs are usually out getting drunk so i have no choice but to talk to them because they are under the influence

also not to sound like a **** but alot of times these chicks approach me or give me strong signals to approach so i know that they are feeling me at the time..but i know half the reason is prob cause they are drinking and feeling good.
Ok. So if all these drunk girls are sending you these signals to approach them,and you have "no choice" but to talk to them,then how do you plan to solve this problem of the disappearing interest that keeps happening whenever you call them a day or two later? I'd like to hear this one myself.

Because to me,it's not the girls you're connecting with,it's the booze in the girls. Alcohol produces an altered state of mind. So basically,you"re "connecting" to these girls when they're not in their right frame of mind. The so called "connection" last as long as the girl is under the effects of the alcohol. Then the next day when you call her,you expect to pick up from where you left off the night before,but the girl you connected with the night before is gone. The alcohol has worn off and she's back to normal. Unless you plan to keep her drunk for the entire time you know/plan to date her,you'll keep running into the same problem.
 
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