"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Back Ground- 3 years ago me and this girl, N, were friends, and on a "dare" got a bit sexual. Basically didn't hang out for the next 3 years...just talked every several months to keep in touch. 2 weeks ago I text her saying I'm leaving for the Army and want to say Goodbye.

So we get together this Friday. (she asked if we can grab a bit together).
It was snowing really hard here, but I still managed to go over her house by train. 2 stops away from her station, she texted me saying "D (her friend) is going to join us, ok?" I didn't replied, but knew it was going to hurt me. I get off the train and meet them 2. (Btw, I went to school with her friend for 4 years, never really liked her, she always has attitude, you know that type? always complains and cries...but we were on good notes, even though I don't like her). So N asks me if I drink, I of course say yes. We get some beers (each got a 6 pack...) and go to her house to watch a few movies.

When I saw them 2, gave them both a hug, chit chated a bit, tried to act out what I learned in theory these few weeks on this nice forum...
So we set the Tv and all, and watch a movie. But guess what? I get stuck sitting on the outside of the couch ( N, then the friend, then me) which really bummed me out. Not close to N at all (which I was trying to "game") and I got this girl stuck between us.

We drank a little, but not enough..I thought these 2 were really gonna drink and maybe we'll have some fun, but at most they both drank 3 beers (even thought they are known to drink a lot...). When sitting next to the friend I tried a bit of kino...it worked partially, her ass was resting on my fore-hand for a few minutes, then she would shift her position, and then touch me again. Really confusing and annoying actually.

So my only chance was trying to be funny, which I did, and we had a good laughs all together, but there was still tension, you know what I mean? Alone in her house, with a friend that I don't like, and this girl I didn't see in 3 years.

Overall I got some good responses from her, ("wow you've grown!"). But I still think her friend fvcked it all up basically.

So we watched 2 movies, then they walked me to the train, hugs goodbye, keep in touch kind of sh!t, and that's all.

Any thoughts on this? I know its a bit long..but I'm not sure what I could have done better..Acting funnier? it felt weird. Sitting by N? had to way to get to her...I am pretty bummed b/c I hoped it will be just the 2 of us and I would know how to take it from there.

To sum it up-
Minimal Kino.
I was funny- even got some sex jokes in there.
Awkward situation made the whole night a bit weird..
(I still think having English as a 2nd lang hurt me here...they were both home grown american girls).


Looking forward for the harsh comments, bring them on, that's the only way I'm gonna learn.

Thanks guys.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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First of all she brought her friend just in case you tried anything "funny" so i think you were screwed/fzed all along.Don't try to date girls you already know,approach new girls with a clean slate.
 

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Snow Plowman said:
You didn't close, you did nothing to really escalate in the end it was your fault nothing happened. So what if she brought a friend to come hangout, you should've still been escalating.

This will sound AFC'ish, but when its one-on-one, I would know how to escalate. But for this dynamic, where there are 2 girls, and one is giving a bad vibe to the whole night, how would I escalate?

I just want to know for future situations, though I think I am done with this specific girl (I'm moving away from the country anyway..back to Israel). And of course, I value your opinion :)
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Basically your pumping both there BT but your doing mose of the teasing on your target and creating more sexual tension with her. You can also kino both but kino the target more intimate than the friend.

So say if you were play fighting you'd probably shove the friend and slap her arm a bit. But for your target you'd probably pick her up in a bear hug and ROCK BOTTOM! her on the table. but seriously you get the point.

Also kino could be discreet also, away from the eyes of the friend. Say she went to the kitchen to get something and you and your target were in the room for like 5 seconds. You could quickly go for the kiss and all. She can't be judged because her friend didn't see and even if she does she approves because you still were pumping the friends BT and it wasn't like she is bored out her mind while the target is getting all the fun and attention.

You could've also made her join the fun, by playing a game where all 3 of you could be apart.
 
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