"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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Flaking after a First Date

Agent9

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Ok, so I'm a long time reader of the forums and decided to start posting threads. I'm not hopeless and I get a first date with what is usually an 8 about every month. However, I have hit a plateau. I can never seem to take it past a first date. I'm becoming mister million first dates and when I call a girl a couple days after a date, I get the voicemail and never a call back.

This is getting old and I want to take it the next level. It is frustrating and the girl will usually be smiling and laughing most of the time. Whether I go for the make out or not seems to be irrelevant. Lately, I have been trying to open up more and talk about my dreams, goals, and aspirations as well as try to get her to do the same. I don't know if it is just me but I feel like this is the toughest step to get past. Any thoughts?
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Kailex

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Can you give us a detailed example??? I can't really make a judgement based on general knowledge.

What was your last date like? What happened during the date? Where did you go? Was there kino? More and more questions... so, please answer? :D
 

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Kailex said:
Can you give us a detailed example??? I can't really make a judgement based on general knowledge.

What was your last date like? What happened during the date? Where did you go? Was there kino? More and more questions... so, please answer? :D

We just went for drinks after work. I thought it went well the conversation was flowing and natural, I avoided talking about boring subjects. It was only like an hour. A little bit of kino I should have tried more. For me it doesn't seem to matter whether or not I do a short date or long date, elaborate or not, I get the same result. I know I need to work on my kino but that can't be the only thing.
 

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Sounds like you may be coming across too "friendly". I've struggled with this problem in the past as well.

You mentioned something to the affect of sharing your dreams with these women, which is a no-no on a first meeting. She should be qualifying herself to you, not the other way around. Allow mystery to work in your favor. Don't be a 'nice guy' to people who haven't earned right to experience that side of your persona.

Flakes happen. Some women are doing you a big favor by ending contact early. There are a lot of damaged goods out there, and in some cases you're better off not dealing with them. Also, keep these first meetings (don't consider them dates) as inexpensive as possible. You won't be nearly as frustrated if nothing comes of it. Make your expectations known through action (eg., kino) and let the chips fall where they may.
 
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