"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Right...after some opinions on this.

Obtained a POF HB 6.5 number on 17/11/13 & we were texted back & forth a little.
Arranged date via text on 18/11/13...I told her WHERE & WHEN we would meet which was 19:30 on 22/11/2013 ...told her the specific bar. She confirmed.

She didn't turn up...

Me: Where are you?

Her: I didn't think we were meeting up anymore because you hadn't been in touch.

Now my brother thinks she is in the right. He reckons he would contact the woman on the day to make sure it was still on.
I didn't want to do that because my thinking was that's "needy" we've arranged the date..she should fuc*ing turn up or if SHES UNSURE TEXT ME
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Shes Taking The Pish..........once You Make Arrangments The Deal Is Set......she Is Full Of Shyt.........next Please
 

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Ok go no contact, if she wants to date you shes gonna apologize to you and reschedule if she goes ghost you got your answer...
 

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I'm inclined to agree with your brother, a confirmation text is warranted. Some advise against it but I like to know ahead of time if a chick is going to flake. That way I can just stay on the couch in my sweats, I'm not taking a shower for nothing!!!!
 

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I was just after some opinions on the matter. I think common sense will solve this kind of situation.

I haven't contacted her since & met a cool HB 7.2 last night & meeting
up again with her Wednesday night.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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the thinking of "confirmation on the day of date" is good & bad as others believe.

In my experience (I don't confirm btw) if the girl is interested in you SHE
will confirm. I've always gotten a "Are we still on?" confirmation from them the day before the date.
Or a "See you soon / on my way" text the day of the date.

In your situation as someone above suggested, see if she try's for another time...if she doesn't offer, she isn't worth your time in my opinion.
 

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Just ask her out again. Confirm the date the day of. If she flakes or gives excuses then next her.
 

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I just did a whole podcast about this subject! In short: there's no need to confirm a date with a girl. EVER. At the very least, you can tell her when you make a date: "Great, so it's Tuesday at 8 - I've already put it on my calendar so I'll definitely be there, make sure to put it on yours too!" But that's it. If they like you and think you might be "the one," they're not going to forget to show up for that all-important date with the guy that could be their future husband. Reality check: if she wanted to see you so bad, she would've hit YOU up before the date to re-confirm instead of just assuming the date was off - like, really guy, how many guys do you know who have EVER set up a date and just not shown up? EXACTLY. All she's giving you is an excuse for her low interest. Don't fall for it.
 

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I agree with that. I don't confirm dates, if I make one I show up and I expect her to show up too. But in this case he's been flaked on once by this chick already. In that case I'd confirm. If...he decides to give her another shot at meeting him.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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Harry Wilmington said:
I just did a whole podcast about this subject! In short: there's no need to confirm a date with a girl. EVER. At the very least, you can tell her when you make a date: "Great, so it's Tuesday at 8 - I've already put it on my calendar so I'll definitely be there, make sure to put it on yours too!" But that's it. If they like you and think you might be "the one," they're not going to forget to show up for that all-important date with the guy that could be their future husband. Reality check: if she wanted to see you so bad, she would've hit YOU up before the date to re-confirm instead of just assuming the date was off - like, really guy, how many guys do you know who have EVER set up a date and just not shown up? EXACTLY. All she's giving you is an excuse for her low interest. Don't fall for it.
Yeah, funny thing is she texted me this :-

Her: Should we say half seven where abouts???? It sounds stupid I have never done this before so please turn up & im just lying in bed now relaxing.

Me: Yates. Half seven. Friday night. I'll defo turn up. I hate flakey people & i'm at work...quiet job.

Her: Brilliant where do you work?

Me: Calvin klein ass model. Im the original poster boy. Have you not
seen me on the billboards in Durham?

Her: Ah come to think of it that's quite a good match. I worked for Victoria secret for a while. You not seen any pics of me?

Me: Hmm you are mischevious which is good.

Her: You intrigue me. You don't give much away which will give us something to talk about.

Me: Yeah no worries. You're in good hands with me. See you Friday.

Her: I'm sure I am. See you Friday. Looking forward to it.
 

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Rainman4707 said:
Her: I'm sure I am. See you Friday. Looking forward to it.
LOL, open and shut case. If they flake with a weak excuse and offer no counter they're out. You need to learn to start rejecting women and having fun doing it. It's actually fun when you catch them in their childish games. This girl should be a distant thought in the back of your head.

I actually had a girl flake on me a week ago but she called before the date to cancel, apologize and offered me specific days as a counter to make it up to me. We went out later that week and had a great time. No advanced notice + no counter = reject.

I've had lots of chicks flake on me with weak excuses the day of like "I have to stay at work late tonight sorry, we'll do it some other time." No specific counter so she was out. She never contacted me again either. Clear sign of 0 interest. You can waste a lot of time thinking about the situation or trying to chase them down for another chance. Don't do it you'll just look weak and it'll be a big blow to your self esteem.
 

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Renegade357 said:
LOL, open and shut case. If they flake with a weak excuse and offer no counter they're out. You need to learn to start rejecting women and having fun doing it. It's actually fun when you catch them in their childish games. This girl should be a distant thought in the back of your head.

I actually had a girl flake on me a week ago but she called before the date to cancel, apologize and offered me specific days as a counter to make it up to me. We went out later that week and had a great time. No advanced notice + no counter = reject.

I've had lots of chicks flake on me with weak excuses the day of like "I have to stay at work late tonight sorry, we'll do it some other time." No specific counter so she was out. She never contacted me again either. Clear sign of 0 interest. You can waste a lot of time thinking about the situation or trying to chase them down for another chance. Don't do it you'll just look weak and it'll be a big blow to your self esteem.

I was wanting to see opinions..if you guys had said she was in the right then I would of contacted her again. She missed her opportunity.
 

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Nah, you were in the right on this one.

Especially based on that text conversation!
 

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Yeah, what a dumb ass cvnt. She definitely was too much of a pvssy to call it off on her own so she made you look like the bad guy. Jesus, the nerve of some people...
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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Drop her ass and don't look back. You don't need that b**ch. Your answer to flaking cases are based on these things:

1. She calls you with a counteroffer AND FOLLOWS THOUGH ON IT

2. She goes ghost

I'm betting on #2. No interest there. If she wanted to see you, she would've found a way to make that happen. Believe that!

Case closed. Exit stage left.
 

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Espi said:
Another thing I would have done differently: Instead of texting "Where are you?" I would have waited 20 minutes--then left without calling or texting; on the next day, I would have texted her an apology for "missing" the date.

"Hi I am so sorry. I got crazy busy and forgot about you. I hope you understand."

In my opinion, any chick that no-shows me deserves to be checked. Sending out such a text will fvuck with the woman's ego. Women hate thinking that they've been slighted. Gives 'em a taste of their own medicine.
^^That's the BEST response to a no show imo.
 

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If you're going to meet up with someone, make sure you text the person hours before then text again an hour before. She thought you weren't interested anymore.
 

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Rainman4707 said:
Right...after some opinions on this.

Obtained a POF HB 6.5 number on 17/11/13 & we were texted back & forth a little.
Arranged date via text on 18/11/13...I told her WHERE & WHEN we would meet which was 19:30 on 22/11/2013 ...told her the specific bar. She confirmed.

She didn't turn up...

Me: Where are you?

Her: I didn't think we were meeting up anymore because you hadn't been in touch.

Now my brother thinks she is in the right. He reckons he would contact the woman on the day to make sure it was still on.
I didn't want to do that because my thinking was that's "needy" we've arranged the date..she should fuc*ing turn up or if SHES UNSURE TEXT ME
Dude since it was 4 days when you confirmed. You should have sent a confirmation text on the DAY. This is normal practice even for my friends let alone a stranger. You fvcked up. C'mon man. What are you 10 years old?!!!
 
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