"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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First dates don't really mean much

Uncharted

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I'm getting confused during my first dates and I'm not sure how to improve. Last five girls I went on first dates with:

1. We were all over each other in the parking lot after getting drinks. She had to go but I told her I'd text her. Never heard back from her.

2. Had a great time together she was all over me in the bar and then again outside. Kept making references to when she was going to see me again. Never heard back from her after a text a day or two later.

3. Girl seemed kind of into me but was hesitant. Kissed in the parking lot near her car. 2nd date BJ 3rd date sex.

4. Girl seemed standoffish physically all night. We had a fun conversation over drinks but it seemed more like friends. I tried to kiss her and she turned her head. I never followed up. A week or two later she texted me asking to hang out. I went to her apartment and banged her.

5. We didn't seem to get along because our personalities clashed but I figured might as well just go for this anyway. Went in for kiss we ended up banging in her back seat on the first date. After that she would text me and reply but never wanted to meet up.

Maybe I'm escalating too quickly and they are feeling like I just want to bang and drop them?
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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wifehunter

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I imagine, a lot of guys on this board would say "next her" .... she didn't pass the kiss test. It also depends on what you want. It sounds like a fwb situation.
 

Slash Dolo

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Are you sending the first text after dates? If so that may be your problem. I would never send a text after a date (even if we banged) until I got one from her first unless it's at least a week later.

In general though we can read articles on this site and think we have everything down and still be thrown a curveball because there is an exception to every rule and no woman (or man) is exactly like another. Case in point, your experiences here.

It seems where you're losing out is the texting portion. The in-person stuff usually always goes well for me too; but texting is a LOT more difficult because men get over with women based on personality, game, body language, tone of voice; things that are hard or impossible to display in text. If I can give you a text tip, try to create intrigue by sending a text like "So I have a question" and then don't follow up til hours, or a day later. It doesn't really matter the question, it could be asking her out again or her opinion on a shirt you're ordering; what matters is you're creating intrigue and getting her mind wondering about what it is you could be wanting to ask, and then why you aren't asking it in short order. And again, don't text first after dates unless it's about a week later.
 

dustmuffin

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I have had dates with a good kiss close then nothing. Three first dates this week and a third. I think you just have to try to set up the second date. May work may not. Nothing ventured nothing gained.

But on the other hand i had a date bj in parking lot, second date sex and then no reply to my text. That was about two weeks ago. Sent a text today for grins and got a date saturday. She told me she didnt want it to be just about sex. I ignored and set up the date. She is crazy but good in bed. We will see how this goes.
 

zinc4

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My relibles one pretty much always tend to be first date lays or last back to my place or hers. If not, I pretty rarely see or ask for a second date.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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