"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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First Date; One Question:

Ice882

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What do you guys think about telling a girl she looks good at the beginning of your first date?

example: I see her coming and I go "oooowwww" and when she's close enough I tell her "damn girl, you almost look good enough to be seen with this (point to self)"

And please, don't flame. Or make ridiculous assumptions about my character or the situation based on nothing at all. Thanks.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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blinkwatt101

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Dude no need to play games. Just be a gentlemen and say 'wow you look amazing' while looking in her eyes.
 

Ice882

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blinkwatt101 said:
Dude no need to play games. Just be a gentlemen and say 'wow you look amazing' while looking in her eyes.
I don't want to lose the high ground, though. By that I mean I don't want to have her stop qualifying herself to me i.e. keeping myself the prize.

That's my only concern with being straight up like that.
 

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Personally, i'd never consider doing anything like that.

I know some people like to work compliments, but like you said i find myself that u immedietly lose ground and DLV.

Its generally a good principle to ignore a womans looks completely in your mindframe. If you must compliment give a compliment about a thing she does which you 'think is cute' or is funny; whatever would work for you.

Especially on a first date it sounds like the kinda thing that wud put her value above you and work against you.

Just be a gentlemen and say 'wow you look amazing' while looking in her eyes
that sounds very nerdy and beta.
 
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I believe that the only way I'm giving a girl compliments on her looks is when she's earned it. When we are alone for the first time, meaning she's agreed to be alone with me and we're hanging out... She's earned a compliment on her looks from me, every time.. To me, she's basically agreed to have sex. She's earned it, mind you, that I know of.. Most girls don't appreciate an over zealous guy, don't pressure the statement on her.. If you're nice and honest in your compliment. I believe that she'll have sex with you. Doesn't matter who the aforementioned girl is.
 
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"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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I havent seen this one plate all summer since schools been out, now that schools back, once we got together I used the line "Theres the one girl I wanted to see!" gave her a big hug and then started conversing... like another poster said, be gentlemen like, try to avoid slang unless youre from Harlem or taking her to a fastfood restaurant.
 

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stop over thinking this sh1t theres nothing wrong with a genuine compliment
 

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Any more opinions?

I'm leaning towards delivering the compliment in a sarcastic, C and F way... get the point across and charm her but still keep my value.
 

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The fact you kiss a girl your attracted to is surely complimenting her looks??? So why the need to do it before?
 

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Ice882 said:
What do you guys think about telling a girl she looks good at the beginning of your first date?

example: I see her coming and I go "oooowwww" and when she's close enough I tell her "damn girl, you almost look good enough to be seen with this (point to self)"

And please, don't flame. Or make ridiculous assumptions about my character or the situation based on nothing at all. Thanks.
The first part is alright. Nothing wrong with opening with a compliment to loosen her up and plow through any awkward first moments.

The second part is trash. You don't need that and you run the risk of setting the wrong tone and torpedoing the whole date.

Just be a gentleman, tell her she looks very good, and open conversation. If you're desperate to open conversation and you hit a wall, pick out a part of her outfit (shoes, earrings, whatever stands out to YOU the most...not her bra, that's bad) and open with that. Open with whatever. The compliment should be enough to loosen her up.
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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