"The Kiss of Death Mistake"

You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?

Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.

One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.

Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.

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First date in 5 years, need ideas...

Strix

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Hi guys

Long time lurker, first time poster.

I've just come out of a ***** of a divorce, Long story short, I married too young, I acted like a **** and let her walk all over me, she destroyed my confidence, got stucked by someone else and ended up having this guys kid after getting rid of mine.

I know, I know, cut the BS, charge it to the game and all such...

Anyway, the divorce was finalised 2 months ago and I've ended up doing a crapload of charity work for various organisations, and I've met a nice girl through church, not a real knockout, but really sweet and funny. We're due to meet up on saturday and go for a drink.

What I need to know is, how do I convey that I'm interested, without coming across desperate or, as tariq nasheed would put it, thirsty? Its a friends thing we're doing, and I'm wanting to convey that I'm interested, but not come across like a desperate idiot.

So I'm after ideas, links to other threads, articles from the DJB etc, that I can look at to give me some ideas.

Just to highlight my situation, Im not a nice looking guy, which is why I need the help.

Cheers guys

S
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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Tiguere

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Read the book of pook. Everything is in there. If you have a ? About sonething you read come here and ask us.
 

SandHawk

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I agree with Tiguere, read the DJ bible and the pook of book. Both have plenty of material on how to convey you're interested in a girl without being pathetic.
 

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San Jose California said:
That's your advice to the guy? Read a 300 page book? Yeah, or you could just tell him the answer so he doesn't have to.
lol, my first thought when I read "read the book of pook" was "so he's gonna study a 270 page book by Saturday?". I think the guy's looking for so simple last minute tips to keep from looking like an ass, not a life changing experience, lol.
 

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Strix said:
Anyway, the divorce was finalised 2 months ago and I've ended up doing a crapload of charity work for various organisations, and I've met a nice girl through church, not a real knockout, but really sweet and funny. We're due to meet up on saturday and go for a drink.

S
First piece of advice:

Just because you met her in church and you think she's sweet, don't treat her as such. She's a woman just like any one else and will be receptive towards kino.

Act sexual.

Second piece of advice:

You already got the drink part down, so make sure you definitely establish eye contact and make sure kino HAPPENS. Also, if you are going to a TGIF-type place to have drinks, do NOT sit at the booths/tables. Make sure you go to the bar area, booths/tables are ANTI-KINO and will c0ck-block you in the worst way. You want to make sure that you are next to her, that you can tough her shoulder/arms/hands.

Third piece of advice:

Just relax, don't drink more than her, you don't want to come off as a lush. Just take it easy on your alcohol intake and you should be fine. Yes, it helps to lower inhibitions but take it TOO far and then you'll be a babbling idiot all night.

Fourth piece of advice:

I hope you two picked either her place or yours as a start-up location, that way, you can end the night at either one. It sets the tone.

Fifth piece of advice:

Just relax and be yourself, but don't be a friend. Yes, it's nice to make them laugh, but you have to build sexual attraction as well as comfort and rapport.



I know you're probably a little nervous, it's the first date in 5 years. If anything goes wrong, just take it in stride. This is a learning experience. Just have fun with zero expectations.
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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