"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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First date - girl initiates the physical touch aspect

BJP1991

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First date at a bar, seated side by side. Girl kept crossing her legs, towards me, and resting one of her legs against mine, almost the entire time. During convo when I would tease or joke she would touch my arm, more than once.

Seems like high interest. Date was relatively short, pulled her towards me for a kiss at the end but she averted into a hug instead, which was fine. I didn’t fully “go for the kiss” as in move my face towards hers, so it’s not like I got a cheek necessarily.

She said she wanted to do it again - sometime next week.

With this one, I’m not planning to reach out first. I’m going to wait at least another day or two (date was last evening) - to allow her a chance to reach out first.


Now, granted high interest women will “usually” reach out first - but this is not 100% always the case. I don’t always assume that if a girl doesn’t initiate after a first date that she is not interested. It just means her interest might be there or might not - zero indication. However if they do initiate, I agree that it is generally an interest indicator.

What sort of text do you initiate with after waiting and giving them a little time to reach out first? I’d like something short, simple, and to the point (asking her availability for a date next week).
 

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You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

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bcude

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"hey, i'm gonna be at hooters snorting coke in bathroom no4 on thursday at 8pm, why don't you join me?"

You suggest, lead and go where you want, she can accept and join you or she can come up with another day/time. If she does none of that, her interest is low (which i certainly don't think in this case, she will probably reach out first).
 

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girl initiates ANYTHING (hello, kino, etc) you need to show your interest...

hint: if a woman does NOT like you, she will do everything within her power to NOT be in your vicinity, metaphorically or physically
 
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