Maxtro
Master Don Juan
Explain why if you can.
Also, what do you typically do?
Also, what do you typically do?
Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.
She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.
Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.
So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.
The words come later. The impression comes first.
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
Thanks for your input.Asasione said:Day or night is irrelevant! The main attraction is YOU not the fvcking venue or what time of day or anything. The girl should have a great time because she gets the pleasure of spending time with you no matter if your sitting at a coffee shop or at school chilling on some benches or on a quiet bus with no music.
In theory, that is correct.Asasione said:Day or night is irrelevant! The main attraction is YOU not the fvcking venue or what time of day or anything. The girl should have a great time because she gets the pleasure of spending time with you no matter if your sitting at a coffee shop or at school chilling on some benches or on a quiet bus with no music. Stop relying on external things to engage women and rely on yourself, if you don't know how then learn how to make everyday conservation about mundane things like what happened to you this week, for example, sound interesting.
This is completely the wrong mindset. What do you want to do, be friends with this chick or bang her?Maxtro said:When I first spend some time out with a girl I prefer to do it during the day doing something relaxed where we can get to know each other.
You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.
Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.
She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.
Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.
You're never going to get everyone to vote. It is a parts of statistics called response bias. Just like in government census. They did everything in their power and threatened to send people over to your house if you didn't fill it, yet the response rate was 75%.Maxtro said:Wow only 13 votes. So nobody else goes on dates?
Can you please elaborate?Badmannaz said:daydate=friendzone
that is such bullsh1t. it's all about what connection you and the girl has that make the date go well. if ur only after sex don't date at all.. go to a night club and find some drunk hoe.Badmannaz said:daydate=friendzone
Attraction runs on a clock.
She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.
The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."
One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.
Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.
I think it matters. Meeting up in the day gives the wrong message right away and shows "I want to be your friend". Don't waste your time with that, take her out for drinks then take her home.Maxtro said:This thread makes me wish I could edit polls.
I'd add a "Doesn't matter" option if I could.
Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.
I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.
Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules. Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.
Chickfight said:I used to avoid daydates like the plague. It's the logical thing to do.
Then I was forced to see a girl at midday cause it was legitimately the only time that worked.
In the end it was no different than an evening date for me, though I still don't recommend it unless you can find some very quiet places. That's only because if you haven't kissed her yet, it might feel strange to kiss her in front of a bunch of strangers in broad daylight. After the making out has been firmly established though, kissing in public is not really problem for most girls. Personally, I went to an almost empty movie theatre to make out and after that it was all good.
So to summarize my view; going for the day date is fine if you have no choice, but NOT unless you can be virtually alone with her for the make out or HAVE ALREADY made out with her.
Of course thats just a guideline I follow.. To get really good game you have know what the best thing to is, yet not be worried about doing it or not doing it if that makes sense. Don't be afraid to go with your gut instinct sometimes. If it works, you'll learn and internalize it, if it doesn't then it won't really set you back as long as you keep a strong frame and don't sweat it.
Also, though people do look better at night and with alcohol![]()
well when u put it that way you better hope the girl is a skanky hoe to put out on the first date. i would go with night time for THAT kind of date. but if you can actually get a hotel room or take her back home during the day then go for it. again i think it's all about connection and how good the attraction is. but yeah, they would have to be pretty sluttyy. i never try to get sex on a first date because i don't feel comfortable enough for that and i don't respect the girls who put out that fast... but thats just me.Maxtro said:So if you don't care about getting sex on the date, does the time of day matter?
As I mentioned before, I'm talking about first dates, and I don't care about getting first date nookie.
i know that i was just saying that's all. i dont think it matters if its day OR night for a first date. its all about getting to know each other. i actually love daytime over night because i like being out in the sun (if it's a good day) and just walking around town with the date and talking then stop for a coffee.Maxtro said:LoneWolf, I appreciate your posts but you seemed to completely misunderstand my post.
I don't want sex on the first date. I'm not sure how you came to the conclusion that I did.
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.