"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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First date, and the kiss.

gimmeyofonenumba

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I was reading the antidump part of the bible today, such great stuff, but i think some of it does not apply to dudes like me who are young and horny. Anyways, I got another chick's number, and what i had in mind, was calling her over the weekend, maybe sunday, and making plans for monday be it lunch,coffee, w/e.

Now, i know alot of you reccomend an action date, but i think it'd just be more mindless bullsh!t at this point, everytime i've talked to this chick(school), we would just make each other laugh, not really learn anything about one another.

Now, as far as the date goes, whever i take her, Iam gonna put on loads of kino, which is all good, but the kiss... When do i initiate a kiss? at the end, also lets say i meet her somewhere, maybe when we are walkin towards the cars? I know antidump advised not to kiss on the 1st date, but honestly, im not sure what to do. Also, what kind of kiss is it? just a quick tongue in the mouth, then pull back look in her eyes, and a kiss on the lips? Need some help with this ya'll.
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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So let me get this straight... from your vast experience you already know that most stuff presented in the DJB doesn't apply to your situation... yet you need us to tell you when you're supposed to kiss a girl? :rolleyes:

My advice - read the rest of the DJB.
 

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When ... you'll probably know. When she gives you IOI's, Kino's you back and starts giving you mad EC.

How ... you can either use the kissing bet or mystery's kiss routine, or DeAngelos kiss test.

Of the three mystery's is the easiest. So here it goes for all you n00bs:

(option 1)
PUA: Would you like to kiss me?

HB : Maybe/ I don't know (they rearly say YES, so this basicly means she wants to)

PUA: So let's find out then.

(option 2)
PUA: Would you like to kiss me?

HB: No.

PUA: Wow, you really know how to wreck a moment, I bet your ex boyfriends hated you for that.
or
PUA: I didn't say you could, I just wanted to see if you wanted ;p

And then punish her for her mistake, and then do it again.

Hope this helps. Props to Mystery ;)
 

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Kino's you back and starts giving you mad EC.

How ... you can either use the kissing bet or mystery's kiss routine, or DeAngelos kiss test
What does EC stand for?


I've read about the hair test one, what does the other involve though?
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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