Finally got the physique, how did it change your game?

[Paarth Shah]

I've been scrawny and skinny my whole life. In the HS/college years I was a loser, no women. I had to focus hard on the game, using my facial looks and charm to finally be able to spin plates. Never did I ever have the confidence of a physique...until now.

The other day, one of my plates told me, "You got muscles in all the right places".. Damn, I thought to myself.

To those who've always been gifted with a strong body or those who finally managed to get a physique after training for years, how did it change your approach and your confidence?

 

[EyeBRollin]

Women notice. They feel you up. They act all submissive and nervous from the jump.

 

[RichardTheFrog]

Helps when physicality is most important, like sending pics, clubs, and in the bedroom. You won't just be able to sit there and be cold approached all day though, it's not a magic bullet.

Large muscles are not most important in the bedroom.

 

[fastlife]

Physique is less important than how you feel about yourself, how comfortable you are in your own skin, how you carry yourself, and the subcomms you project.

If having a good physique makes YOU feel better about yourself, then THAT is what will carry over into your interactions with women. If you are totally shredded but have insecurity about your bicep insertions or some other sh1t, THAT INSECURITY is what will carry over into your interactions with women.

Women experience arousal emotionally--how you make them feel is what they will use to form their conception of 'reality'--rather than dispassionate observation of objective fact. So, for instance, there was a period of my life where I wasn't able to afford to eat very much & I lost a lot of weight & all my guy friends, especially the ones I played ball with when I was a solid 60 lbs heavier, would give me sh1t about being anorexic or looking like I was on drugs, but a handful of the girls I slept with would say things like, "Wow, you're so bulky" or "You must workout all the time." Obvious bullsh1t.

Of the guys I know who really kill it with women--'naturals,' if you will--most of them have sh1tty physiques, sh1tty jobs, etc. Because they have so much blind, unshakable confidence, that it would never occur to them that they would possibly need to self-improve.

 

[RichardTheFrog]

You have no clue what you're talking about

You make a girl orgasm with your muscles?

 

[fanatic22]

Some girls are really into big guys and so I felt like I became a demigod for that demographic. That being said I got big before I learned DJ principles and I very quickly lost girls' interest by being too eager.

Size is clearly a huge benefit, but it has diminishing returns... its good enough to look like Channing Tatum. Going from Tatum to Arnold is extremely intense and has relatively small impact.

 

[17 shots]

When I was skinny I only caught women looking at my face, but now I catch them looking at my chest and arms all the time, and they love feeling the back of my arms during sex.... also, women just naturally feel safer with you when you're bigger. Women love feeling protected. When I was small I could sense that certain women I talked to didn't feel intimidated by me at all, and probably thought they could take me in a fight lol... that stuff matters when you're trying to check a women or take command. She's less likely to listen to you if she thinks she can beat you up

 

[sosousage]

Large muscles are not most important in the bedroom.

you are a combination of bigneil and bigdave but you earn less money and you are skinny

 

[Paarth Shah]

Physique is less important than how you feel about yourself, how comfortable you are in your own skin, how you carry yourself, and the subcomms you project.

If having a good physique makes YOU feel better about yourself, then THAT is what will carry over into your interactions with women. If you are totally shredded but have insecurity about your bicep insertions or some other sh1t, THAT INSECURITY is what will carry over into your interactions with women.

Women experience arousal emotionally--how you make them feel is what they will use to form their conception of 'reality'--rather than dispassionate observation of objective fact. So, for instance, there was a period of my life where I wasn't able to afford to eat very much & I lost a lot of weight & all my guy friends, especially the ones I played ball with when I was a solid 60 lbs heavier, would give me sh1t about being anorexic or looking like I was on drugs, but a handful of the girls I slept with would say things like, "Wow, you're so bulky" or "You must workout all the time." Obvious bullsh1t.

Of the guys I know who really kill it with women--'naturals,' if you will--most of them have sh1tty physiques, sh1tty jobs, etc. Because they have so much blind, unshakable confidence, that it would never occur to them that they would possibly need to self-improve.

While there must be truth to your statement, it can't be completely black and white. I mean if you say they have sh1tty physiques, but there has to be a limit. Significantly overweight, balding, acne, etc.. can't get girls, no matter how much game they have. So these "naturals" may not be model looking, though I suspect if you lined them up and women rated them on appearance alone, they'd fall in the average category.

 

[fastlife]

but there has to be a limit. Significantly overweight, balding, acne, etc.. can't get girls, no matter how much game they have. So these "naturals" may not be model looking, though I suspect if you lined them up and women rated them on appearance alone, they'd fall in the average category.

The average physique for the American male is sh1tty. These guys range from moderately overweight to scrawny, from 6’4 to 5’5ish; one of them is noticeably balding; one of them has acne.

Girls wouldn’t pick them up from a lineup. They’d have a very hard go of online dating.

But in social situations, they are either loud, extremely adept at befriending people, or have extensive social networks, which puts them on girls’ radar & gives them opportunity. From there, they are very good at sexualizing interactions & converting social interest to sexual interest.

Of course, guys on the internet, who don’t go out & see the kinds of guys girls actually go home with think there’s some impossible set of standards they have to qualify for to get a little trim. In reality, the barrier to entry is pretty low; I’ve slept with a solid number of phenomally hot girls—I’d put my top 3-5 against any guy in the world—and all of them had some exes that, in my mind, were so unattractive that it diminished my sense of accomplishment when I was more ego-invested in that sort of thing.

Don’t get me wrong; as a good looking guy who skated by solely on my looks for a long time, it’d be disingenuous for me to pretend they aren’t an advantage. But it’s also given me perspective to their limitations.

 

[Who Dares Win]

In my case lowering by bodyfat and increasing my muscles not only made me look better and younger but also helped a lot with my posture.

In my particular case I suffer excessive fat in terms or hormonal feedback so lower energy, lower libido and lower aggressivity which are all tools you need.

I believe for a man to work on his body is one of the best choice to improve his overall value, you will look good even with normal clothes.

 

[soulforge]

Since I got bigger and much more muscular.. I get a WHOLE more RESPECT from guys and girls..

Dudes think twice before they fuk with yeh... Girls naturally like to be with a guy who makes them feel protected, also chicks love a guy who has a PASSION in his life..

Who has drive to achieve something... Plus biches like to be dominated and smashed in the bedroom, so those big ass BICEPS certainly help..

Obviously if you have confidence and character to go with the the guns, then you will be banging puzzy left right and centre son!

 

[bigdave17]

Greatly. It is not so much the body but the testosterone increase. Learning game is great think of it this way. You can game girls but they will usually screen you out on your looks because that is just human nature. They make first impression on looks, not personality. How can you make a first impression on personality? You don't truly know someone unless you spend a significant time with them (especially more than 5 minutes which is what a cold approach usually lasts). Having a good body immediately opens you up to so many girls (i would say every but most girls are insecure and will reject you because they think you are better than them or some girls just don't like a good body which i think is complete bull**** but I don't want to make generalizations).

If people here spent time changing their body and financial situation rather than game, they would be way happier, more successful in life, and more successful with women. Game is good in terms of communication.

When you increase your testosterone, you will find yourself being a don juan naturally. It will be like breathing. You just feel like a boss and don't feel the need to qualitfy yourself to anyone so you can just stare into a girl's eye and she can ****ing tell you are a Man and that she is the one who is being selected and questioned.

Why do you think the stereotype of girls go for jerks is so common? It is because they have high testosterone. Look up pook's post on secret of the jerk and you will see why buliding your body up and increasing your testosterone is so important.

Don't think it's a magic bullet dude

I'm 5'10 195...look sorta like an NFL fullback and I don't have any dating life

 

[MrWood]

im 5'8 160 and a paralized arm and I have a great dating life

 

[marmel75]

It didn't...I mean at first i still had issues. It wasnt until I embraced the proper mindset to go with it and started learning from mistakes I was making which led to changed behavious that things started to really improve.

The best thing was the aggression it led to in the bedroom

 

[zekko]

I've been scrawny and skinny my whole life. In the HS/college years I was a loser, no women. I had to focus hard on the game, using my facial looks and charm to finally be able to spin plates. Never did I ever have the confidence of a physique...until now.

This is why so many guys can improve their value as they get older. Males who start out scrawny can build up their bodies. Fat guys can lose weight too, but they have the more difficult task, IMO.

 

[Jareamee]

Greatly. It is not so much the body but the testosterone increase. Learning game is great think of it this way. You can game girls but they will usually screen you out on your looks because that is just human nature. They make first impression on looks, not personality. How can you make a first impression on personality? You don't truly know someone unless you spend a significant time with them (especially more than 5 minutes which is what a cold approach usually lasts). Having a good body immediately opens you up to so many girls (i would say every but most girls are insecure and will reject you because they think you are better than them or some girls just don't like a good body which i think is complete bull**** but I don't want to make generalizations).

If people here spent time changing their body and financial situation rather than game, they would be way happier, more successful in life, and more successful with women. Game is good in terms of communication.

When you increase your testosterone, you will find yourself being a don juan naturally. It will be like breathing. You just feel like a boss and don't feel the need to qualitfy yourself to anyone so you can just stare into a girl's eye and she can ****ing tell you are a Man and that she is the one who is being selected and questioned.

Why do you think the stereotype of girls go for jerks is so common? It is because they have high testosterone. Look up pook's post on secret of the jerk and you will see why buliding your body up and increasing your testosterone is so important.

Good post! Can you link that specific topic you mentioned?

 

[ImTheDoubleGreatest!]

Got me out of the friendzone a million and one times back when I was a scrub. Now it's just like 'wow, he is hot'. But I have a very low bodyfat percentage, so I look better without my clothes on than with them. You won't be able to tell how lean or muscular I am as well as if I had a little more fat.