“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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met up with an online date milf girl 8 years younger. Initially meeting went well, I had to drive to see her so it was already made clear I’m sleeping at her place on the first date or I’m not coming.
Long story short 4 am us and another couple are at her place she’s been showing waning interest, no flirting or touching. I was crashing out so I text her hey which beds yours I’m done. She responded but I didn’t see it while I was taking a piss. So she had a shocked look when I showed back up in the living room.

Fast forward friends leave I say hey well I’m a cuddler just so you know, if you ain’t cool with that I need a blanket.

She got me a blanket and I slept on the fvckin couch lol. that line never backfired on me ever before. Or my other go to line which I didn’t use “ alright but I sleep naked just so you know” to which I get into bed in my boxers of course. They’re ment to Convey playfulness and intent. Usually works.
 
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Just because a woman listens to you and acts interested in what you say doesn't mean she really is. She might just be acting polite, while silently wishing that the date would hurry up and end, or that you would go away... and never come back.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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She got me a blanket and I slept on the fvckin couch lol. that line never backfired on me ever before.
Ah man, that always sucks. Unlucky dude.

I never have the expectation of sex when I'm invited to a girl's place, but I find it weird how many times I end up on the sofa when she was clearly flirting with me 15 mins ago. Maybe it's just that last bit of technique that seals the deal that's hard?

Though of course nothing is 100% successful.
 

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I maybe could of saved it by trying to make out with her at the absolute very end there.

Or if I had seen that text and just gotten in her bed.

Either way not the interest level i exspected/wanted. 30 lbs heavier than her photos, didn’t actually have her “own place” as stated initially. Smoked a pack of cigarettes after telling me she only smokes when she drinks.

If it hadn’t been in my best interest to not drive I would of left
 

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Before entering her home, whilst still inside the car engage in some kissing/kino to get her in the mood and excited.

Once that's done I seriously doubt you will be on the couch.
 

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met up with an online date milf girl 8 years younger.
Milf? As in past prime sexual market value?



What is up with this forum and guys dealing with busted past prime women? Sleeping on the couch? Son. I just leave. I don't play this cuddle low testosterone sleep on couch rubbish. Its subtext. Its man to woman. Its taking **** out and breaking of rapport when in doubt (IE hot and cold). Full blown Naked man. She is hot/cold? My clothes comes off. Full blown Hail Mary.

It makes for a funny story. Furthermore, if this is online dating, most times then not, women look better in pics then IRL. Likely, pics of her much younger and thinner.


TS, IMHO, it goes back to BOUNDARIES. A good read is Way of the Superior man by David Deida. For me, low sex drive/libido is a deal breaker. If I pull a girl home and there is LMR, I just bounce. This is what plate spinning is for. Furthermore, if you pull one girl out of a bar or club, you've taken numbers, the game I run always is as follows; "got a early morning/busy day tomorrow." Its my cue to exit even after smashing. I don't sleep with women in my bed. I am not looking to play house and I do not embed the possibility. They are welcome to try and build a nest. Not into it.


Pull the chute in future mate. Take it on the chin. Don't fall prey to the female imperative. Said woman won this game. How? Because you validated her and then you went full beta slept on the couch.
 

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Before entering her home, whilst still inside the car engage in some kissing/kino to get her in the mood and excited.

Once that's done I seriously doubt you will be on the couch.
The hail mary move in said predicament is taking it out or just going full blown 'naked man.' Obv a bit more trickier in the #metoo I'm a woman/victim society which is pedaled these days.

Biggest deal breaker of this thread is a man pursuing milf. Its like, how much bottom feeding can one do?
 

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met up with an online date milf girl 8 years younger. Initially meeting went well, I had to drive to see her so it was already made clear I’m sleeping at her place on the first date or I’m not coming.
Even though it didn't get you the lay this particular time, I still really like this strategy. "Hey if I drive this distance to come see you I sleep at your place or I am not coming". I drove over an hour to meet a chick about a month ago and I shoulda' used this. I did get her to come the distance to my house on the 2nd date a week later and Houston had liftoff that time.
 

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Fast forward friends leave I say hey well I’m a cuddler just so you know, if you ain’t cool with that I need a blanket.

She got me a blanket and I slept on the fvckin couch lol.
that is hilarious hahahahaha

take solace in the fact that you now have a great funny story to tell about an uninterested woman that you only went on 1 date with and never responded to ever again

she’s been showing waning interest, no flirting or touching.
this was your clue to find an excuse to leave early and go home or whatever else imo
 

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Even though it didn't get you the lay this particular time, I still really like this strategy. "Hey if I drive this distance to come see you I sleep at your place or I am not coming". I drove over an hour to meet a chick about a month ago and I shoulda' used this. I did get her to come the distance to my house on the 2nd date a week later and Houston had liftoff that time.
I have a camper on my truck with a sleeping bag in the back for absolute worst case.

As far as pursuing a milf I agree. Just consider life in a completely rural area is much different than the city life. There are literally so few options unless I drive 45 minuets. Trust me I wasn’t interested in dating.

I know I wanted to leave, but it was dumb to risk a dui
 

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I have a camper on my truck with a sleeping bag in the back for absolute worst case.

As far as pursuing a milf I agree. Just consider life in a completely rural area is much different than the city life. There are literally so few options unless I drive 45 minuets. Trust me I wasn’t interested in dating.

I know I wanted to leave, but it was dumb to risk a dui
That is the boat I am in too as I am rural. I live in a subdivision of houses out in BFE Illinois. We got 45 minutes to a city of 150,000. Or 45 minutes to a city of 120,000. Or 45 minutes to a small town of 10000. Or 15 minutes to a town of 6500. Between all of these though there are Plenty of Fish to choose from. They just aren't 5 minutes away.
 

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That is the boat I am in too as I am rural. I live in a subdivision of houses out in BFE Illinois. We got 45 minutes to a city of 150,000. Or 45 minutes to a city of 120,000. Or 45 minutes to a small town of 10000. Or 15 minutes to a town of 6500. Between all of these though there are Plenty of Fish to choose from. They just aren't 5 minutes away.
Your probably not far I’m in SW Michigan. Stay away from my bitches :)
 

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I maybe could of saved it by trying to make out with her at the absolute very end there.

Or if I had seen that text and just gotten in her bed.

Either way not the interest level i exspected/wanted. 30 lbs heavier than her photos, didn’t actually have her “own place” as stated initially. Smoked a pack of cigarettes after telling me she only smokes when she drinks.

If it hadn’t been in my best interest to not drive I would of left
I wouldnt have even let it get to that point...would have bailed on her within the first 20 minutes.
 

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Your probably not far I’m in SW Michigan. Stay away from my bitches :)
haha lol I'm a good 2.5 hours from your turf. I think we are good. I might hit the very very SW edge of Chicagoland like Joliet, at the furthest, but even that is a stretch. Look out for @ImTheDoubleGreatest! I think he is further into Chicagoland and closer to you.
 

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Fast forward friends leave I say hey well I’m a cuddler just so you know, if you ain’t cool with that I need a blanket.
Nice feminine frame OP....LOOL ..once in her house you should have grabbed her by the hair and jerked her panties off...;):p:p
 

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haha lol I'm a good 2.5 hours from your turf. I think we are good. I might hit the very very SW edge of Chicagoland like Joliet, at the furthest, but even that is a stretch. Look out for @ImTheDoubleGreatest! I think he is further into Chicagoland and closer to you.
Yeah I mean I’m still definitely the suburbs but I’m probably like 30 min. away from downtown.
 

Just because a woman listens to you and acts interested in what you say doesn't mean she really is. She might just be acting polite, while silently wishing that the date would hurry up and end, or that you would go away... and never come back.

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Smart move having the bag in the camper. I find from personal experience that getting "the couch treatment" is borderline humiliating sometimes.
 

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She text me last night after a week of no contact basically asking if I want to come over and hang out with her friends again.

Me: “ lol you going to give me a better place to sleep?”

Her: you can sleep in the bed this time I’ll sleep on the couch if you want.

“ nope”
 

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She text me last night after a week of no contact basically asking if I want to come over and hang out with her friends again.

Me: “ lol you going to give me a better place to sleep?”

Her: you can sleep in the bed this time I’ll sleep on the couch if you want.

“ nope”
It must go through their head that you don't want to just lie on the f***ing bed while she's on the sofa. Is this some kind of power play or what? Does my head in.
 

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She text me last night after a week of no contact basically asking if I want to come over and hang out with her friends again.

Me: “ lol you going to give me a better place to sleep?”

Her: you can sleep in the bed this time I’ll sleep on the couch if you want.

“ nope”
Tbh I'm half expecting her to reveal that you're her long lost half brother
 

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It must go through their head that you don't want to just lie on the f***ing bed while she's on the sofa. Is this some kind of power play or what? Does my head in.
I think she’s just bored and hasn’t found a better option yet. She wants to commit to giving nothing but still wants something to play with. A trophy to show off her prowess. Girls I believe are generally hopeful you will willingly friend zone yourself.

Its possible if I showed up and played the game, practiced escalating I’d get somewhere. It’s just too far and too socially risky to be convenient. After a zero interest ending to the last meeting, it wouldn’t surprise me if I showed up and she had some loser all over her c0ckblocking himself and me
 

Just because a woman listens to you and acts interested in what you say doesn't mean she really is. She might just be acting polite, while silently wishing that the date would hurry up and end, or that you would go away... and never come back.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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