"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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Field Report: Crashed and Burned

The Daddy

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I went for an impromptu night out with a pal last night. Went to my normal pulling ground but after a big meal which didn't help.

We sat down and opened a 3 set using the "Who lies most?" opener. It worked a treat. I added on some other openers so we ended up with a conversation going on, which was cool.

I don't have any DHV material at the moment so I just went into usual conversational mode (AFC?).

It all went quite well except for the fact that they were leaving the club 15 mins later. So they went.

Two old dogs sat down on the seats nearby and so for the practice I used the same opener. But their reaction was so different. The lady I spoke to was giving just about 1 word answers and just seemed very unfriendly and almost hostile. My friend was flogging a dead horse by continuing the conversation with his girl.

I've used the "Who lies most" opener 4 times now and it worked 3 times very well. But what do you do when you encounter someone who is just plain unfriendly? I just don't know what to say or do in those circumstances.

What do you suggest? Any good things to say? It's just like you need to save face.

Thanks,

The Daddy
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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ApocalypseCow2

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What do you mean by "old dogs"?
 

Chillisauce

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if the opener doesnt open, i move on personally. A similar thing happened to me last night, i tried plowing but if my social proof ( 3 hb 8's) hadnt arived i would have been dead in the water.
 

The Daddy

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"old dogs"=English slang for two older women who weren't that attractive.

Sure, move on. But what do you say? There has to come a point in the conversation where you think you haven't broken through. So you gotta give it a chance. So if they are reluctant in the first instance, I'm seeking advice on what I can say.

e.g. "You don't seem very chatty."
 

spider_007

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call them out on it and move on. If the ho (i'm starting to like that word) is being a ***** say: "well arn't we crabby today, what crawld up your azz" and then turn around and walk away (even if she makes a comment, don't bother answering.). Chances are she will find you by the end of the nite trying to prove her self.....(unless they are old dogs, in which case RUNNNN!!!!!)
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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The Daddy

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It would have been difficult using such a line in my circumstances. we were both hemmed in due to the seating arrangement. And again, it doesn't do anything to break down defences.

I was just shocked when it happened, but I intend to come out of it a better player by finding a solution or come back.
 
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