"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Field Report: Crashed and Burned

The Daddy

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I went for an impromptu night out with a pal last night. Went to my normal pulling ground but after a big meal which didn't help.

We sat down and opened a 3 set using the "Who lies most?" opener. It worked a treat. I added on some other openers so we ended up with a conversation going on, which was cool.

I don't have any DHV material at the moment so I just went into usual conversational mode (AFC?).

It all went quite well except for the fact that they were leaving the club 15 mins later. So they went.

Two old dogs sat down on the seats nearby and so for the practice I used the same opener. But their reaction was so different. The lady I spoke to was giving just about 1 word answers and just seemed very unfriendly and almost hostile. My friend was flogging a dead horse by continuing the conversation with his girl.

I've used the "Who lies most" opener 4 times now and it worked 3 times very well. But what do you do when you encounter someone who is just plain unfriendly? I just don't know what to say or do in those circumstances.

What do you suggest? Any good things to say? It's just like you need to save face.

Thanks,

The Daddy
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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ApocalypseCow2

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What do you mean by "old dogs"?
 

Chillisauce

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if the opener doesnt open, i move on personally. A similar thing happened to me last night, i tried plowing but if my social proof ( 3 hb 8's) hadnt arived i would have been dead in the water.
 

The Daddy

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"old dogs"=English slang for two older women who weren't that attractive.

Sure, move on. But what do you say? There has to come a point in the conversation where you think you haven't broken through. So you gotta give it a chance. So if they are reluctant in the first instance, I'm seeking advice on what I can say.

e.g. "You don't seem very chatty."
 

spider_007

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call them out on it and move on. If the ho (i'm starting to like that word) is being a ***** say: "well arn't we crabby today, what crawld up your azz" and then turn around and walk away (even if she makes a comment, don't bother answering.). Chances are she will find you by the end of the nite trying to prove her self.....(unless they are old dogs, in which case RUNNNN!!!!!)
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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The Daddy

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It would have been difficult using such a line in my circumstances. we were both hemmed in due to the seating arrangement. And again, it doesn't do anything to break down defences.

I was just shocked when it happened, but I intend to come out of it a better player by finding a solution or come back.
 
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