“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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Field Report (and a request for advice)

Sun Ra

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Hi everyone,

I'm a longtime lurker who feels I have cause to post, although nothing herein is rocket scientist. A bit about me: I'm 24, a student, average looking but I do alright. However, I've been out of the picture for a while. I haven't had occasion to post here yet, but I thought tonight was worth mentioning. I tend to be verbose, so if you're looking for a short read, this isn't it.

I met a girl off the internet. Yes, perhaps not the coolest way, but it's what I'm comfortable with. We exchanged a couple emails, talked via instant messenger once, and then spoke on a the phone a couple times. Tonight we met at a mainstream coffee joint for about an hour and 45 minutes. She's pretty, my age, a single mother (which she admitted during the initial correspondence), and seemingly bright (even though she evidently has made poor decisions).

The meeting: I got there a couple minutes before she did, but when she walked in, I put my hand over my mouth (in an oh my god manner) and jumped up and down a couple times. She laughed, we shook hands, I bought each of us a drink, and we sat down. She was wearing normal clothes and showing modest cleavage, obvious but nothing obscene. The conversation generally flowed, she laughed a lot, maintained eye-contact, didn't withdraw her hand when I commented on a ring, bla bla. She asked some questions about my personal life, ranted a bit about hers, and brought up some things we had talked about during our non-person-to-person conversations.

Then we went outside so she could smoke a cigarette. We then went back inside. I had plans later this evening with buddies, so I wanted to wrap it up. I essentially told her I enjoyed our meeting and wanted to see her again. I told her I wasn't one to engage in innuendo and subtle hints, and then asked if she was interested. Maybe a chumpy thing to, but I'm not inclined to be cleverly coy. She said yes, she'd be interested in seeing me again. I said - it had been said before but I felt obligated to reiterate - that like her, I was poor and cheap, that my hobbies were not mainstream and that I'd try to push them on her but wouldn't be disappointed if they didn't take (said jokingly), and that if we ended up hitting it off, I wouldn't mind meeting her kid but that such a scenario was far in the future. I also told her I was 24 years old and STD-free, and that was the way I planned on remaining. I didn't *****foot around the subject, but she said she understood, and although she was STD-free, she'd be willing to get a test.

She nodded, said she was still interested. I said, "Great! Let's go outside, spin around in circles a couple times [as we had earlier spoken of doing as children] and seal the deal with a PG-rated, no-tongue kiss! Whaddya say? She smiled and shyly said, "Maybe." I said, "That's a yes, let's go." So we went outside, agreed to spin three times, did so, I pulled her to me, we kissed for a couple seconds, she giggled, I then said in my best but still woefully inadequate Bogart voice, "Hell, let's do it again," kissed again, she giggled. Then I made some rather meandering small-talk about I'd get in touch with her or she'd get in touch with me. I then walked her to her car, made some comments about how immaculate her car was, had her laughing, kissed her once more, said "Nice meeting you, X, I'll be in touch" and walked off.

Post-Date analysis:

My initial impressions of her are favorable. She's attractive, she's well-spoken, she's funny and amenable to me being funny, and seemingly-sweet-tempered. From what I can tell, she seems like a pretty good mother. She strikes me neither as being interested only in sex nor in being a father figure for her kid. I might be wrong about either or both, though. The fact that she agreed to kiss me, allowed me to hold her body against mine while we kissed, and said, without prompting on my part, that she'd be willing to get an STD-test suggests to me that she doesn't think I'm a total dog.

Going into the date, I thought I'd be wildly enthused if I successfully kiss-closed her. I wasn't. Don't get me wrong, it was nice (and better than being rejected) but nice is about the boldest adjective I'd use. I think that's probably where I want to be, interested, but not obsessed.

Questions:

Where was I not so smooth? I feel like I shouldn't have said "Nice meeting you" at all, considering we had kissed and agreed to see each other again. I like to think I can pull off cheesy in a charming fashion, but one man's cheesy is another man's idiotic/desperate.

I'm not much of a texter, but I thought I'd text her (or call her) and wish her a Merry Christmas on the 25th and call her later this week. Good or bad idea?

Any other observations, advice, or comments? I'd be happy to answer any follow-up questions.

Thanks!

Sun Ra
 

What happens, IN HER MIND, is that she comes to see you as WORTHLESS simply because she hasn't had to INVEST anything in you in order to get you or to keep you.

You were an interesting diversion while she had nothing else to do. But now that someone a little more valuable has come along, someone who expects her to treat him very well, she'll have no problem at all dropping you or demoting you to lowly "friendship" status.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

easylover

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I kind of cringed reading that. Did you really bring up STDs and say "let's seal the deal with a no tongue kiss"?
 

spax

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wtf? Dont talk about sex on the first date. She doesnt owe you anything.
 

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Sun Ra said:
Questions:

Where was I not so smooth? I feel like I shouldn't have said "Nice meeting you" at all, considering we had kissed and agreed to see each other again. I like to think I can pull off cheesy in a charming fashion, but one man's cheesy is another man's idiotic/desperate.

I'm not much of a texter, but I thought I'd text her (or call her) and wish her a Merry Christmas on the 25th and call her later this week. Good or bad idea?

Any other observations, advice, or comments? I'd be happy to answer any follow-up questions.

Thanks!

Sun Ra
To me it sounds like you did very well and took the lead with a good attitude and a lot of confidence. Wishing her a "Merry Christmas" is the right thing to do and a good idea. Keep up the good work. Merry Christmas.


.:rock:
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

Read more...

Grand Wizzard Alamar

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Sun Ra is an awesome pianist.
You wrote way too much though man, just get to the point and we'll be able to help ya much easier.
 

j0n024

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HAHA dont worry about these guy's man...I love to read long posts it gives you more info and your imigantionat can help out more instead of somethng like this:

Hey guys I went out tonight and was talking to this girl that I met online we were taking for a while then went outside to smoke after that I told her I was meeting some friends later so we kissed and then I left .....where can I do better?

Know what I mean? I think you did good ...except for the part about your STD's and stuff like that I dont think you should bring that up anymore ON ANY OTHER DATE as well. Next time just dont bring it up and relax you seem like a natural and the PG kiss was a bad idea but you got a second kiss so it seems good . Ohh and wishing a merry Xmas isnt a chump thing to do nor is it good ... it's a holiday so it can go either way but most of the time it's good.....UPDATE! bye Merry Christmas....

PS: I hope you dont think I am clingy because I said MErry xmas..lol.
 

Sun Ra

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Good advice, guys, thanks. It's funny what a difference a day can make. I cringe rereading some of that myself. If I get a 2nd date, I'll let you know.
 
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