"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Field Report#16 : Finger girl in nightclub!!!

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I understand caution to some degree but this is getting ridiculous.

Not only did she not say no she made no physical effort to stop him at any point (assuming I read the post correctly and assuming this story isn't a total fiction). Which would be fvcking funny as sh1t. Guys getting their panties twisted up in a knot over some fake "field report."
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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I understand caution to some degree but this is getting ridiculous.

Not only did she not say no she made no physical effort to stop him at any point (assuming I read the post correctly and assuming this story isn't a total fiction). Which would be fvcking funny as sh1t. Guys getting their panties twisted up in a knot over some fake "field report."
No, dude... She's an obvious tranny.

Don't be so blue pill beta.

You need some Corey Wayne in your life, for sure!
 

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No, dude... She's an obvious tranny.

Don't be so blue pill beta.

You need some Corey Wayne in your life, for sure!
You have 5,000 posts on this forum in one year. Obviously, you never leave the house. Anything you say about dating is by definition irrelevant and trolling.
 
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You have 5,000 posts on this forum in one year. Obviously, you never leave the house. Anything you say about dating is by definition irrelevant and trolling.
I was making a joke, but now that I see what an a**hole you are, I don't even care.

I'm actually rarely home. Have the people on this forum never heard of a smart phone?
 

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You can get herpes on your fingers by sticking then in someone's vadge.

You get your fingers infected and you start touching things because "hey you got some blisters on your fingers, how did that happen?" And you spread, spread, spread that sh1t around, even to your wankie when you hold it to pee.

Brilliant!
Oh sorry I'll wear gloves next time lol
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Something doesn't add up. Literally. The OP Ryan has been on this forum for eighteen fvcking years! Yet, still asking for basic advice on pickup? This is definitely long game trolling.
Bringing a girl home from a club is "basic" advice? That's something that only 5% of people on this forum have done.. me excluded, given I'm been clubbing for nearly two decades.
 
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Bringing a girl home from a club is "basic" advice? That's something that only 5% of people on this forum have done.. me excluded, given I'm been clubbing for nearly two decades.
How old are you? If you've been on here for 18 years, then maybe you're too old to be fingering strange girls. How old was the girl?
 

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How old are you? If you've been on here for 18 years, then maybe you're too old to be fingering strange girls. How old was the girl?
Early thirties. I don't go clubbing much...

Like I said in my post she was a early 20s uni student.

I'll finger anyone whose decent looking because I'm a vagyna enthusiast.
 
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Early thirties. I don't go clubbing much...

Like I said in my post she was a early 20s uni student.

I'll finger anyone whose decent looking because I'm a vagyna enthusiast.
I guess that's not bad. I'm 31.

If you're a vagina enthusiast, I would wonder why you would want to get that small bit of action in the club rather than a lot more in private. Oh wait... That was the whole point of your question.
 

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I'm curious, what is the difference between sexual assault and rape?
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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I'm curious, what is the difference between sexual assault and rape?
In Florida, there is no such crime called either one. There is a crime called "sexual battery," which is defined as...

"oral, anal, or vaginal penetration by, or union with, the sexual organ of another or the anal or vaginal penetration of another by any other object; however, sexual battery does not include an act done for a bona fide medical purpose" without consent.

I believe words like "rape" and "sexual assault" are more colloquial terms.
 

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A low quality girl who allows strange men to fondle her like that who STILL WALKED OUT ON YOU is considered one with a high interest level?
you said it yourself "allows strange men to fondle her"

so she "allowed me" -->> most members of this fine forum understand that the word "allow" implies consent, hence she consented to this action, which she non verbally communicated to me by the act of smiling, that she was enjoying said action.

I am posting this will all due respect to you since I appreciate your mature replies.

@MrWood
 
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Bringing a girl home from a club is "basic" advice? That's something that only 5% of people on this forum have done.. me excluded, given I'm been clubbing for nearly two decades.
Which begs the question: if 95% of this forum don't have the requisite skill to help you, why are you asking for advice here?

With two decades of clubbing under your belt, do you really need any more advice?
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Which begs the question: if 95% of this forum don't have the requisite skill to help you, why are you asking for advice here?

With two decades of clubbing under your belt, do you really need any more advice?
I said less than 5% of people on this forum have brought a girl home from a club ( good topic for a poll), I NEVER SAID 95% OF PEOPLE HAVE THE REQUSITE SKILL TO HELP ME.

Please don't put words in my mouth.
 

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I said less than 5% of people on this forum have brought a girl home from a club ( good topic for a poll), I NEVER SAID 95% OF PEOPLE HAVE THE REQUSITE SKILL TO HELP ME.

Please don't put words in my mouth.
You didn't say so explicitly, but strongly implied it. But the question still stands, why aren't you capable of offering even intermediate level advice after clubbing for 20 years straight?

Why is a thread about fingering a girl thread worthy for you after two decades of clubbing (and presumably dating?)

You are asking the type of question someone would ask in their first year or two of going to clubs.
 

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bottom line is, ultimately she left without giving you her number or possibly even her name because she just wasn't into you. There was no interest level. If there was interest level she would have either stayed or made sure you could keep in contact with her.

the fact that she did not give you contact information suggests that she was not enjoying the interaction.
 
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bottom line is, ultimately she left without giving you her number or possibly even her name because she just wasn't into you. There was no interest level. If there was interest level she would have either stayed or made sure you could keep in contact with her.

the fact that she did not give you contact information suggests that she was not enjoying the interaction.
Then explain why she didn't stop him. And he was down there for more than just a few seconds.
 
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Then explain why she didn't stop him. And he was down there for more than just a few seconds.
Who knows? Maybe she was too drunk to realize what was happening right away. Maybe she was initially into it before becoming self conscious about the fact that she was getting finger f**ked in a bar with other people around. Maybe she had to pee and while in the washroom her friends slapped some sense into her. Maybe her ex called while she was in the washroom and she left to meet up with him.
The only thing we know for sure is that his moves didn’t result in anything further and he’s dang lucky he didn’t leave in handcuffs.

I read another one of his other field reports and he comes across as too sexually assertive which, in a extremely liberal #metoo city like Toronto, where he lives (and where I live), he’s going to get himself in serious trouble if he doesn’t dial it down a bit and learn to read clear signals. The other field report is him driving some scared girl down a country rd just outside of Toronto at night I mean... according to the report she came around and they made out after her resisting most of the time, but what if she called 911?
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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