Kev07
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well said wyldfire.
She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.
Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.
The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
Call me what you want, wayword...but the fact of the matter is...I am happy, have had two great loves in my life, have a wonderful family, and don't ever look to another person to fulfil or complete my life. I'm blessed and if I were to die tomorrow I would have no regrets and would not feel like I missed out on anything. I seriously doubt that you could say the same...wayword said:Uh, aren't you the cougar who dates ex-cons and hasn't had sex in 5 years?
Yet you are giving us advice on "quality control?" :crackup:
Problem is, American women are like Detroit auto in the 70s - overpriced, bloated and poor quality. They're only good for joyriding a few times before they break down on you. This was all due largely to feminism. And when quality is so rare, how can you expect to find a good deal? You can't.
When the entire market is crappy - you can't blame the consumer who has nothing else to choose from.
Holland said:The tendency of this feminist to only look on the negative side of this site says more than enough.
Close the thread please and pray her pathetic attitude is not contagious.
Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.
Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers. Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.
I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.
Holland said:The tendency of this feminist to only look on the negative side of this site says more than enough.
Close the thread please and pray her pathetic attitude is not contagious.
LOLWyldfire said:I no longer want my name associated with the cesspool of hatred that this site has become.
Goodbye
Uh, I think both are critical to our well-being and what's wrong with men's rights, anyways? Or anti-feminism/misandrism?Wyldfire said:Holland, the very sad fact is that virtually all of this site has become negative. It didn't used to be like this...but it has changed so much that it's not anything like what it was when I first came here. Allen should never have allowed the anti-feminists to change this site from a dating advice site into a recruiting center for men's rights.
You are overlooking, perhaps intentionally to add weight to your claims, the most obvious and critical element:Wyldfire said:I'm being very honest with you guys...truth be told...you DO sound like a bunch of guys no woman in their right mind would ever want to even date, let alone have a relationship with. It didn't used to be that way. I'm an extremely tolerant person, and there is only a very few posters on here I would even want to be friends with, let alone anything else. There's an awful lot of ugliness on this site, and sadly, I really don't think most of it is real. I think most of it is a bunch of confused guys "fronting" attitudes and personalities that they think the rest of the community expect from them.
It's not only feminists who would find much of what is posted here to be offensive. Any woman would be insulted and offended by it. I'd rather have my daughter tell me she is a lesbian or is marrying a homeless bum than to ever have her date someone from this site. No woman would ever view men from this site as "the prize" based on the crap posted here. That is the way men are portrayed here...and it's not a very good portrayal.
She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.
Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.
The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.
That post I made is a perfect example of what I am saying. This site HAS become a cesspool of hatred...especially in the Mature Men section. I had to leave for awhile because the overall attitude on this site was so disgusting and hateful that I was afraid it would cause me to view all men negatively. I didn't want to do that so I left.TylerDurden said:
Masculism, just like feminism embraces victimhood, teaches excuse-making, weakness of character and fear and breed hatred.wayword said:Uh, I think both are critical to our well-being and what's wrong with men's rights, anyways? Or anti-feminism/misandrism?
*Gasp*
WAKE UP WOMAN - those are all GOOD THINGS for MEN...and an orderly society, to be frank.
What's the matter - afraid of men finally wising up and demanding some truth & fairness in life? Afraid of a dog that no longer wants to be kicked around when lying down? Aww, go cry yourself to sleep then. femtw@t.
I agree with you. But that can only realistically happen if the mods ban a sh1t load of people.Wyldfire said:The truly mature and quality men on this site need to stand up and take this site back.
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
WRONG. You are a liberal feminist-in-denial.Wyldfire said:Masculism, just like feminism embraces victimhood, teaches excuse-making, weakness of character and fear and breed hatred.
Radicalism is evil, regardless of what form/cause it takes.
I'm neither a feminist or a masculinist...I'm a Humanist. That means I prefer to promote things that will benefit everyone, hurt none and make things better for everyone all at once. I don't feel compelled to fight against anyone...because I know more gets accomplished when everyone is on the same team.
:crackup:wayword said:...Problem is, American women are like Detroit auto in the 70s - overpriced, bloated and poor quality...
Well, it took a foreign automaker (Japan) to break the cozy domestic auto monopoly here in the 70s. Until that happened, there was no reason for any domestic maker to upgrade - in a limited market, people had to buy what they were selling. And were it not for the Japanese, we'd still all be driving 2-ton rustbuckets today.A-Unit said:Tell me, if the market produced CRAPPY autos, wouldn't an auto maker find a solution for this and profit by it? Are all women to be labeled as such just by being born within the boarders of our country?
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.