Feminine Males

[ducaro]

This is what I heard a 24 year old guy (a distant friend) say...

'If you don't love chocolate, how will you ever know the feeling of being in love'

he apparently has a gf

I am still scratching my head

 

[joekerr31]

see in the old days a guy would say something like that and any guy within 20 feet of him would have said "hey sally, tuck in your panties." - it wouldn't necessarily be 'mean', but it would be a verbal slap to remind the guy not to act like a woman.

but over the past 20 years and the switch to political correctness, no one says anything anymore. people just shake their head and move on.

so this guy goes around saying dumb sh*t and has no idea that he is behaving like a woman.

kind of sad really.

 

[penkitten]

http://whyfiles.org/033love/choco.html
http://faculty.washington.edu/chudler/choco.html
chocolate does produce the same chemical in your brain as falling in love.



Chocolate also contains phenylethylamine, a chemical related to amphetamines. Like amphetamines, this chemical causes blood pressure and blood-sugar levels to rise, resulting in a feeling of alertness and contentment. Phenylethylamine has been called the "love-drug" because it quickens your pulse, as if you are in love. Caffeine in chocolate may also cause feelings of alertness and a pounding heart. Other stimulants in chocolate include theobromine and methylxanthines. These caffeine-relatives are weaker than caffeine-you'd have to eat more than 12 Hershey bars to get as much caffeine as there is in one cup of coffee. All of these stimulants increase the activity of neurotransmitters in the brain.

 

[Victory Unlimited]

So...loving chocolate is the equivalent of being in love with a woman, huh. Well, congratulations men...I think Ducaro just reported to us the scientific evidence of the "cure" for Oneitis:

If you can't get the woman of your dreams, just go out and replace her with a big bowl of chocolate ice cream or something instead! lol

 

[Mr.Positive]

Great post Penkitten. I think you also answered the 'fat women' thread too.

http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=137282

More feminine males = more women lacking love = more women eating chocolate to supplicate = more fat women.

Seems pretty simple to me.

 

[ducaro]

Great post Penkitten. I think you also answered the 'fat women' thread too.

http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=137282

More feminine males = more women lacking love = more women eating chocolate to supplicate = more fat women.

Seems pretty simple to me.

lol. this thread is getting better by the minute!

 

[penkitten]

Great post Penkitten. I think you also answered the 'fat women' thread too.

http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=137282

More feminine males = more women lacking love = more women eating chocolate to supplicate = more fat women.

Seems pretty simple to me.

i just copied and pasted what that site showed as research. hasn't anyone here ever heard of this before?
this is why so many women crave chocolate or coffee, and most of us have at least one of the two daily. during periods and holidays, i want a whole bag of candy to myself.
i used to be fond of reese cups because of the peanut butter, but now that i am older, nothing can beat a york peppermint patty.
i keep little debbies in the house, because i only want them, when i don't have them on hand.
i admit that i could stand to loose a pant size, but even eating all this stuff, i only weigh in at 115 lbs, and i'm a married mother of four.
i think obesity in general is not the same thing and it stems from lack of exercise,lack of discipline , fast food, over eating in portion size and genes.
rich girls become anorexic to get attention and look good, but poor girls never end up with this "disease". why not? because poor girls never turn down a good meal, who knows when they will eat again!

 

[aliasguy]

"rich girls become anorexic to get attention and look good, but poor girls never end up with this "disease". why not? because poor girls never turn down a good meal, who knows when they will eat again!"


PK, you know I love your stuff, and I agree with you most all the time, but THIS is just NOT TRUE.

Do you know, or have you EVER met anyone in the last 10 years who is going hungry except by CHOICE? There is NO need for any woman, man, or child to be hungry in this country. We have FIXED hunger in America. Poverty DOES exist (and the definition is sketchy), but there is NO reason for a woman not to be able to eat. Or her kids. Too many programs, etc. Cop-out.

 

[Interceptor]

I was looking over some threads, and this one caught my eye.
As you may know I am very motivated to help males realzie their Masculinity, their masculine strength.

With so many males growing up identifying with women, and not strong masculine role models, there is a serious almost epidemic like poplulation of males whom are strangely disconnected to their nature maleness, their inherent Masculinity.

As more and more men grow up NEEDING approval from women to be themeselves, and hope they are 'liked' by repeating actions, like doing favors for mom, we have huge numbers of men not acting masculine.
Being ashamed of oneself is bad. Being ashamed of one's identity is bad.
Being ashamed and shamed for being a man, and masculine is what we are facing. And people, WOMEN INCLUDED , NEED to know what is going on here.

Men are in a situation that they aren't even realizing. But some are. After all the failures, rejection, negative feedback loops, and unhappiness, and strangely unfulfilling lives, as some men are looking outside the matrix
This site is proof that something is wrong within the Matrix.


I would like everyone to realize that there is a strangely COMMON theme in this board, and in most 'nice guys".

That of EXPECTATIONS.

"If I do this, then I should be getting THAT. I expect people to treat me this way. I expect getting this."

What they are hinting is that there is a sense of something missing.

Men are feeling like they are OWED something.
Something that is intrinsic, a part of them, something they FEEL they should HAVE.

"What is wrong with me? Why do I feel this way? Why don't women respond to me? Why don't I get appreciation and love and affection? Why aren't women attracted to me? Why don't I know who I am? Why don't I have passions? Why do I lack ambition and drive? Why do I not care about goals? Why do I not have a Directon in Life? Why do I have a hard time identifying with men, and masculinity? Why do I identify with women? And since I identify with women, why can't I get them to like me? Who am I?"



That 'something' is MASCULINITY, and the EXPEREINCES of being in the presence of STRONG, MASCULINE Realized Role Models.

This is the reality. And a lot of women do not realize this has happened.



Here is what Robert Glover explains in his book "No More Mr. Nice Guy":

But after years of working with countless men, I am convinced that a unique combination of social dynamics over the last five decades has produced a plethora of Nice Guys in historically unprecedented numbers.

To truly understand the current phenomena of the Nice Guy Syndrome, we have to take into account a series of significant social changes that began around the turn of the century and accelerated following World War II. These social dynamics included:
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The transition from an agrarian to an industrial economy.
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The movement of families from rural areas to urban areas.
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The absence of fathers from the home.
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The increase in divorce, single parent homes, and homes headed by women.
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An educational system dominated by women.
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Women's liberation and feminism.
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The Vietnam War.
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The sexual revolution.

These events combined to have a major impact on American boys growing up in this era. These social changes created three profound dynamics that contributed to the wide spread phenomena of the Nice Guy Syndrome in the baby boom generation.

1) Boys were separated from their fathers and other significant male role models. As a result, men became disconnected from other men in general and confused as to what it meant to be male.

2) Boys were left to be raised by women. The job of turning boys into men was left to mothers and a school system dominated by women. As a result, men became comfortable being defined by women and became dependent on the approval of women.

3) Radical feminism implied that men were bad and/or unnecessary. The messages of radical feminism furthered the belief of many men that if they wanted to be loved and get their needs met, they had to become what they believed women wanted them to be. For many men, this meant trying to hide any traits that might cause them to be labeled as "bad" men.

 

[penkitten]

"rich girls become anorexic to get attention and look good, but poor girls never end up with this "disease". why not? because poor girls never turn down a good meal, who knows when they will eat again!"


PK, you know I love your stuff, and I agree with you most all the time, but THIS is just NOT TRUE.

Do you know, or have you EVER met anyone in the last 10 years who is going hungry except by CHOICE? There is NO need for any woman, man, or child to be hungry in this country. We have FIXED hunger in America. Poverty DOES exist (and the definition is sketchy), but there is NO reason for a woman not to be able to eat. Or her kids. Too many programs, etc. Cop-out.

but you see it is true, with all the programs out there to feed the poor, the poor girls eat. the rich girls are not eating because they dont want to. you and i are both right on that one. poor chicks do not turn down a good meal, or a free meal, because they need it.

 

[aliasguy]

but you see it is true, with all the programs out there to feed the poor, the poor girls eat. the rich girls are not eating because they dont want to. you and i are both right on that one. poor chicks do not turn down a good meal, or a free meal, because they need it.

They DO NOT need it --- they are FAT. They've NEVER gone hungry. Ever. Their whole lives. Most of them carry cell phones, too.

I don't have any sympathy for the rich women who don't wanna eat, either. See George Carlin for a response to anorexia ("Rich c*nt... don't wanna eat.... F*CK her.")

 

[joekerr31]

rich girls dont eat because of the social pressure to be thin.

there is a LOT of social pressure to conform among the rich. many of them live a status-driven life.

often times with the rich its just one of the couple who makes all the money. often the male. and while the male may not be overly status driven (as hes busy working) the female has a ton of free time on her hands (as do all her friends). and to give their life purpose they engage in a wide variety of status-driven behaviors, which are engrained in their kids.

poor girls who are fat generally are fat due to poor food. while the rich are eating sirloin steak, poor people are eating KFC and twinkies because that's what is in their neighbourhoods.

even when it comes to 'good' food they eat high cal food like potatoes.

 

[aliasguy]

rich girls dont eat because of the social pressure to be thin.

there is a LOT of social pressure to conform among the rich. many of them live a status-driven life.

often times with the rich its just one of the couple who makes all the money. often the male. and while the male may not be overly status driven (as hes busy working) the female has a ton of free time on her hands (as do all her friends). and to give their life purpose they engage in a wide variety of status-driven behaviors, which are engrained in their kids.

poor girls who are fat generally are fat due to poor food. while the rich are eating sirloin steak, poor people are eating KFC and twinkies because that's what is in their neighbourhoods.

even when it comes to 'good' food they eat high cal food like potatoes.

Eating well is EASY. Good, quality food is cheap and plentiful (for now.)

Fat comes from too much KFC, et al., which, incidentally, is MORE expensive than balanced, quality food easily bought MUCH more cheaply down at the supermarket.

If you want to blame big ol' fat chicks on poor quality food, that's ok, but remember BETTER quality food is readily available to them, and more affordably.

Choices. Ignorance.

This is TRUE.


I don't CARE about the "social pressures" of the rich. They have the resources to be well informed. And, if they choose the "unhealthy" path, that's their choice. "Status" --- whatever. Those women ought to look after their health and the health of their kids. No excuses.

 

[Director]

Excellent post, Interceptor.

But after years of working with countless men, I am convinced that a unique combination of social dynamics over the last five decades has produced a plethora of Nice Guys in historically unprecedented numbers.

To truly understand the current phenomena of the Nice Guy Syndrome, we have to take into account a series of significant social changes that began around the turn of the century and accelerated following World War II. These social dynamics included:
l
The transition from an agrarian to an industrial economy.
l
The movement of families from rural areas to urban areas.
l
The absence of fathers from the home.
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The increase in divorce, single parent homes, and homes headed by women.
l
An educational system dominated by women.
l
Women's liberation and feminism.
l
The Vietnam War.
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The sexual revolution.

I ran across some highly similar ideas the other day here:

http://briankim.net/blog/2007/08/how-to-be-a-man/

It's an awesome article, and I'd recommend that all of you read it. The important thing to note about the list from the Robert Glover book above is that a lot of those things are interconnected. The move from an agrarian to an industrial society is part of the reason why fathers have been absent around the house. And that shift happened way before WWII (even before WWI, if I remember what I learned in history correctly). Manhood was already beginning to unravel, but I think a lot of the pre-Baby Boom generations were able to dodge a bullet, because a great many of those young boys were forced to become men on the battlefield.

 

[StevenR]

I have the sudden urge to get some chocolate pudding out of my computer and eat it, I was gonna masturbate to porn but suddenly the pudding sounds like a much better idea. YUMMM.. Chocolate Pudding

more seriously, I have heard this before too, I even tried it and it didn't seem to work very well. I do like the feeling both chocolate and caffeine give me, but it is not like being in love, totally different feeling. I think I also read that the chemicals in chocolate work better on women then men because they emulate, or maybe it was, interact with the chemicals in a womans body better to give her a similar feeling to being in love. Now I am going to go get that bowl of chocolate pudding.

 

[Z Man]

So, perhaps this is where the misleading notion to give a girl flowers and chocolate candy in order to win her over, came from?

 

[Rollo Tomassi]

More feminine males = more women lacking love = more women eating chocolate to supplicate = more fat women.

Seems pretty simple to me.

I actually considered buying Hershey stock after reading this.

 

[KarmaSutra]

Rollo,

Hershey, like most brainwashed and bland women today, taste like wax.

I'm a Lindtz guy :crazy:

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Regarding the topic, Men of today are forcefed the notion that being Metrosexual and slightly feminine is a noble thing. It's not. Everywhere we look, everything we touch, we're geared towards the ideal that what women want is much more pressing and socially acceptable than growing as a man who respects himself.

Keep the shoes flying off the shelves, the fag-bags slung over your shoulder, wear the glitter laced shirts and pants. Enough is enough.

I always go back to a quote from Chuck Pahlaniuk:

"I see men who will wear leather pants that will last thier lifetime. I see men hunting elk in the ruins of Rockefeller Plaza."

This is masculinity.

Chocolate=femininity? Um,no. Men acting/looking like chicks to get chicks=femininity? Yes.

 

[penkitten]

Chocolate=femininity? Um,no. Men acting/looking like chicks to get chicks=femininity? Yes.

oh that was golden.

 

[penkitten]

So, perhaps this is where the misleading notion to give a girl flowers and chocolate candy in order to win her over, came from?

apparently men have always known that women can't get enough of chocolate, but the saying came long before any research studies.