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She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Females approaching males - I've noticed something

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Female approach can be rare and is usually more subtle/indirect

Perhaps they'll accidentally bump into you or flick hair in your face

But there is ONE exception that I've definitely noticed

Women will outright approach and game the tallest guy in the room

Most of the time he isn't particularly good looking or high value

But it's like they get more drive & confidence around the biggest guy

I've seen them RUN up and start giggling and gaming them

While better looking shorter guys get the more subtle/indirect approach
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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I've seen this with the tall guy too, you might be on to something.
 

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Never underestimate the value of pure height on our ancient monkey brains.

Taller candidates in elections win much more than statistics would predict.

Nobody ever thinks about stuff like this, but ancient instincts have been around for a LONG time.

I doubt any of the girls actually are consciously aware of what they are doing any more than thinking about what they shove in their mouths.

I would guess they just get a "feeling" of being in an outwardly friendly conversation with the tallest guy in the room.

Like they want to (subconsciously) be SEEN having an outwardly friendly conversation with the tallest guy in the room, from a purely female competitive standpoint.

Like guys walk into a room and try to demonstrate dominance, females try this to the same effect.

When they approach shorter guys, it's probably more based on genuine attraction, which explains the subtly.

Kind of like secretly eating a piece of cake (that they really like) at a buffet so nobody sees them.
 

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Girls liking tall guys is a real thing, but so is confirmation bias.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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I'm sure attraction is part of it, but it's probably not the whole story. I bet some girls seek out the taller guy because they feel safer around them. They put themselves under his wing, kind of like how some people try to get the bouncer on their side first thing.

Then there was another thread here about an article saying that girls felt more feminine arould a tall guy. Maybe they put themselves there to feel more feminine, or to make themselves appear more beautiful and petite in contrast. Subconciously, of course.
 

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What's it matter? Can't grow in height. You can only wear thicker soles. Maybe some inserts.
 

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Tall guys stand out no doubt. People will naturally “check” them out. It’s human nature.

Women say they like tall men. But how many have you ever seen a 6’4 guy and stood next to them. I’m 6 even but these people seem unusual tall.

Best height if you want to be tall is like 6’1-6’2, at that point you still look normal.
 

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Tall guys stand out no doubt. People will naturally “check” them out. It’s human nature.

Women say they like tall men. But how many have you ever seen a 6’4 guy and stood next to them. I’m 6 even but these people seem unusual tall.

Best height if you want to be tall is like 6’1-6’2, at that point you still look normal.
I agree after 6"1 maybe 6"2 it just looks goofy.
 

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Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Women say they like tall men just like they say they want “nice guys” or “good guys”.lol
 

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It just fascinates me how the genders are polar opposites

We might look at the biggest guy and feel threatened, women feel the opposite
We might look at the smallest guy and feel unthreatened, women feel the opposite

Small low value men are viewed as creepy to women. They feel unsafe around them
 

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Small low value men are viewed as creepy to women. They feel unsafe around them
I saw a video (can't remember by who) about the reasons for that.

If a girl gets approached publicly by a low value, small man, her instincts make her OBVIOUSLY and OUTWARDLY disgusted at him, as a means to demonstrate to all the other monkey-people that she has NOTHING to do with the guy.

Guys can't really perceive how utterly DEPENDENT women, or more correctly their instincts, are on social approval.

Just being seen SMILING at a small, low value man is DEATH.
 

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I saw a video (can't remember by who) about the reasons for that.

If a girl gets approached publicly by a low value, small man, her instincts make her OBVIOUSLY and OUTWARDLY disgusted at him, as a means to demonstrate to all the other monkey-people that she has NOTHING to do with the guy.

Guys can't really perceive how utterly DEPENDENT women, or more correctly their instincts, are on social approval.

Just being seen SMILING at a small, low value man is DEATH.
And women wonder why MGTOW is taking off and they’re old and alone and living with cats. What a bunch of evil people women are. Seriously.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Def a monkey brain thing. The bigger guy has more mass to use to protect them and they feel completely safe around him.
 

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Small low value men are viewed as creepy to women. They feel unsafe around them
It can be that way. They're lower value because they're further down on the male food chain, or pecking order, as it were. They're more likely to be dominated by the larger males around them. This can also cause them to develop resentful and bitter atttitudes (see many of the posts around here). And finally, even though they're smaller, they're still stronger than the female of the species, so they can still overpower them, which makes them a threat.

It's the same reason women find insecurity so repelling. Guys who are insecure can end up being abusive because they are jealous, have low self esteem, and are easily triggered emotionally. They can fly off the handle and start arguments at least, even if they don't become physically aggressive. But even that can be intimidating.
 

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It can be that way. They're lower value because they're further down on the male food chain, or pecking order, as it were. They're more likely to be dominated by the larger males around them. This can also cause them to develop resentful and bitter atttitudes (see many of the posts around here). And finally, even though they're smaller, they're still stronger than the female of the species, so they can still overpower them, which makes them a threat.

It's the same reason women find insecurity so repelling. Guys who are insecure can end up being abusive because they are jealous, have low self esteem, and are easily triggered emotionally. They can fly off the handle and start arguments at least, even if they don't become physically aggressive. But even that can be intimidating.
But women LOVE arguing with and abuse from their boyfriends or husbands. LOVE IT. It’s all about attraction. When a woman is attracted to a certain guy she will let him get away with stuff she’s never let a guy she wasn’t attracted to get away with.
 

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I have noticed being approached more commonly than what most guys here report. I thought that was normal, but after being on this forum I checked my height (never cared) and found out I was 6'2". Guess I won the lottery there, fact still remains that it means absolutely nothing if you have no game though. Most of the times I got approached (before getting good) they walked away just as quickly as they walked up to me.
 

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You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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