"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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EmotionalGeek

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So we all know what is man's agenda. What they really want and what are the traits of men they are searching for. Last time I asked this question to woman she said she knows this really good and she is very concrete. When I drilled further I got answers like "He has to has it". So I asked what "it" is and she just answered that she knows when she sees. Drilling further just proved my point that she don't know what she wants.

Also man say that woman plays them but they have to play man for something e.g. man plays for sex. So I wonder if there is anything we know about female agenda.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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So we all know what is man's agenda. What they really want and what are the traits of men they are searching for. Last time I asked this question to woman she said she knows this really good and she is very concrete. When I drilled further I got answers like "He has to has it". So I asked what "it" is and she just answered that she knows when she sees. Drilling further just proved my point that she don't know what she wants.

Also man say that woman plays them but they have to play man for something e.g. man plays for sex. So I wonder if there is anything we know about female agenda.
I believe that women know exactly what they want and don't want. However, they might not want to be brutally honest and admit it, and/or they might not be the best at trying to explain it.
 

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Women need 1) organisms/great sex 2) to be taken care of financially, etc. 3) validation. If they can get it all from the same man, great. If not, they will seek to get these needs met from multiple men, even if committed to one. You can almost call this "clockwork".
 

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Women need 1) organisms/great sex 2) to be taken care of financially, etc. 3) validation. If they can get it all from the same man, great. If not, they will seek to get these needs met from multiple men, even if committed to one. You can almost call this "clockwork".
I have seen this in most all of my relationships. When I didn't provide those 3 things, she started behaving badly in some form.

Women just aren't worth it to me. They don't offer me enough in return. When they figure out you have money, and aren't willing to spend it on them they become resentful.
 

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The problem with their "agenda" is that you get punished for mistakes men made with her in the past. So if she rode the CC, separated/divorced, have guys up there on her HST, she'll have elevated expectations on you not to f it up. Even more so if she is swimming in options.

The way to circumvent all of that is as it's often discussed on here... live in your frame. Don't give into her agenda. Give into your agenda. You lead, she follows.

Live your life the way you want to live it. If she doesn't respect and act accordingly like a good soldier as @guru1000 would say, you're always free to drop the plate.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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I have seen this in most all of my relationships. When I didn't provide those 3 things, she started behaving badly in some form.

Women just aren't worth it to me. They don't offer me enough in return. When they figure out you have money, and aren't willing to spend it on them they become resentful.
Have you come across women who are more giving and generous? I know the numbers are shrinking every year, but they still exist.
 

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Have you come across women who are more giving and generous? I know the numbers are shrinking every year, but they still exist.
I have one that almost begs to do stuff for me. I've mentioned her before on the forums. Drives a long way to see me, cooks all the meals we eat - dishes after, does my laundry, rubs my back, makes the bed, etc. I think the "giving" attribute stems a lot from her working ever since she was little. Always on the farm, helping with her parents business, straight A's from grade school to finishing masters. Just always worked hard on everything. My room mate is dating a girl almost 100% identical. They are a rare find but man are they great.
 

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I have one that almost begs to do stuff for me. I've mentioned her before on the forums. Drives a long way to see me, cooks all the meals we eat - dishes after, does my laundry, rubs my back, makes the bed, etc. I think the "giving" attribute stems a lot from her working ever since she was little. Always on the farm, helping with her parents business, straight A's from grade school to finishing masters. Just always worked hard on everything. My room mate is dating a girl almost 100% identical. They are a rare find but man are they great.
And I tell people they can and will help you, and they will learn to please their man too. They care.
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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They want what they can't have....they want Mr. IMPOSSIBLE.
 
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