Giovanni Casanova
Master Don Juan
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Shut the hell up.Originally posted by Cutiepiie
^55 dj_dud
"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
Female acting weird
- Thread starter 5 Fingaz
- Start date
"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"
Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.
You've been "getting ready" for two years.
She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.
Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.
Cutiepie,
Girls aren't near as weird as they are stupid. I felt the need to clarify that for you. This doesn't apply to all of them but it certainly applies to the vast majority of younger women.
This 5fingaz dude is doing everything wrong w/ this chick IMO, she is well aware of it. Don't tell her you 'like' her. She already knows that. Take a gutcheck man. You could next her I don't think that would be a bad idea, but there are other things you could before nexting her to keep her from flaking. If she still flaked when you tightened up, then you know damn sure she is a freaking waste. Good luck.
Girls aren't near as weird as they are stupid. I felt the need to clarify that for you. This doesn't apply to all of them but it certainly applies to the vast majority of younger women.
This 5fingaz dude is doing everything wrong w/ this chick IMO, she is well aware of it. Don't tell her you 'like' her. She already knows that. Take a gutcheck man. You could next her I don't think that would be a bad idea, but there are other things you could before nexting her to keep her from flaking. If she still flaked when you tightened up, then you know damn sure she is a freaking waste. Good luck.
Don't think you are an AFC, just realize you are learning not to do or say certain things. IMO, well actually I know this to be true, if a girl is really interested in you it is pretty damn hard to drive them away. It's easier to drive them away after you have been w/ them than it is before. Many may disagree, so be it.
I would not contact her, she is flaky, interested chicks are not flaky. I wouldn't be rude to her but I'd basically ignore her. Find somebody worth your effort, and you will, the good girls are still out there, you just have to deal w/ a pack of fruit loops before you find one. Good luck.
I would not contact her, she is flaky, interested chicks are not flaky. I wouldn't be rude to her but I'd basically ignore her. Find somebody worth your effort, and you will, the good girls are still out there, you just have to deal w/ a pack of fruit loops before you find one. Good luck.
You think i'm an AFC, I used to be the man before coming over to the Don Juan Bible, A relationship with a girl of 1 1/2 years is over b/c i followed the DJ bible. And don't even try to tell me that its my bad cuz you dont knw me worth shyt. I now know how it really is and i will never follow the way of the bible again.
"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
Thats great advice.Thanks man. I wish it was easy to find a decent one, believe me ive been through my share of fruit loops. Haha but i guess we all have. The problem is sometimes when i find a chick i really want **** like this happens. Its the ones i could care a less about that stick around.
Maverick001
Senior Don Juan
5 Fingaz,
Oh f#ck me, I have to say something here about the women being all powerful nonsense.
To paraphrase everything that I've learned from Pook's posts --- Masculinity is the expression of a Man's strength and power, tempered with discipline. This expression is in ALL aspects of a Man's life.
Men act, women react. That's why guys approach and why women are approached.
Men want and desire, women are wanted and desired. Women complain about being treated as sex objects but what's worse for them is NOT being treated as a sex object. Why do you think that is?
Men take, women want to be taken. How many men fantasize about a strong, feminine woman taking them by "force"? Probably only the girly men. How many women fantasize about a strapping, masculine man taking them by "force"? Plenty.
Men possess, women want to be possessed. See above.
Men are dominant, women are yielding. Ever read "Taming of the Shrew" by Shakespeare? When the woman yields, she finds her true femininity. It's not just in literature. I had one girl, who said at my first mention of spanking her, that no man would ever lay his hands on her in that way. When the time came she was yelling to me to spank her harder! She was really happy getting her buns toasted.
Men are will, women are willing. How many women say that they want a weak, vacillating, spineless man? Not many I think.
Men's identity is singular, women's identity is plural. Men define themselves, women are defined by the relations they have with others. That's why men don't need women to complete them but the opposite is true. Men certainly want women to complement their lives, to add to them but not define them. The opposite is true of women. How many single men are lamenting that they want to get out of the corporate rat race to settle down and have a family? I'd wager not too many. How many women are voicing this aspiration? Plenty.
Take a look at all the guys that you know that are successful with women. I'm not talking about the players, whose sole purpose is to chase and bed as many women as possible. I'm talking about the DJ's.
Are they strong? Meaning that those DJ's exercise their will with discipline? Are they powerful? Meaning that those DJ's have a direction in life and are pursuing their own goals and aims, which exclude chasing women.
That's why women crave men like that and not vice versa.
You're a Man. Know it. Feel it. Live it.
Cheers,
Mav
Oh f#ck me, I have to say something here about the women being all powerful nonsense.
To paraphrase everything that I've learned from Pook's posts --- Masculinity is the expression of a Man's strength and power, tempered with discipline. This expression is in ALL aspects of a Man's life.
Men act, women react. That's why guys approach and why women are approached.
Men want and desire, women are wanted and desired. Women complain about being treated as sex objects but what's worse for them is NOT being treated as a sex object. Why do you think that is?
Men take, women want to be taken. How many men fantasize about a strong, feminine woman taking them by "force"? Probably only the girly men. How many women fantasize about a strapping, masculine man taking them by "force"? Plenty.
Men possess, women want to be possessed. See above.
Men are dominant, women are yielding. Ever read "Taming of the Shrew" by Shakespeare? When the woman yields, she finds her true femininity. It's not just in literature. I had one girl, who said at my first mention of spanking her, that no man would ever lay his hands on her in that way. When the time came she was yelling to me to spank her harder! She was really happy getting her buns toasted.
Men are will, women are willing. How many women say that they want a weak, vacillating, spineless man? Not many I think.
Men's identity is singular, women's identity is plural. Men define themselves, women are defined by the relations they have with others. That's why men don't need women to complete them but the opposite is true. Men certainly want women to complement their lives, to add to them but not define them. The opposite is true of women. How many single men are lamenting that they want to get out of the corporate rat race to settle down and have a family? I'd wager not too many. How many women are voicing this aspiration? Plenty.
Take a look at all the guys that you know that are successful with women. I'm not talking about the players, whose sole purpose is to chase and bed as many women as possible. I'm talking about the DJ's.
Are they strong? Meaning that those DJ's exercise their will with discipline? Are they powerful? Meaning that those DJ's have a direction in life and are pursuing their own goals and aims, which exclude chasing women.
That's why women crave men like that and not vice versa.
You're a Man. Know it. Feel it. Live it.
Cheers,
Mav
Kaine
Senior Don Juan
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You think i'm an AFC, I used to be the man before coming over to the Don Juan Bible, A relationship with a girl of 1 1/2 years is over b/c i followed the DJ bible. And don't even try to tell me that its my bad cuz you dont knw me worth shyt. I now know how it really is and i will never follow the way of the bible again.
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DJ_Dud:
How did applying the concepts of the DJ Bible cause your LTR to fail? If you were "the man" why did you did you come here or attempt to apply the principles of the Bible in your existing LTR?
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You think i'm an AFC, I used to be the man before coming over to the Don Juan Bible, A relationship with a girl of 1 1/2 years is over b/c i followed the DJ bible. And don't even try to tell me that its my bad cuz you dont knw me worth shyt. I now know how it really is and i will never follow the way of the bible again.
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DJ_Dud:
How did applying the concepts of the DJ Bible cause your LTR to fail? If you were "the man" why did you did you come here or attempt to apply the principles of the Bible in your existing LTR?
"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"
Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.
She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.
Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.
So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.
The words come later. The impression comes first.
I used the DJ bible to try to make the relationship right. Yeah the DJ Bible is alright, to a point. People need to read between the lines and not follow this book so fully. I will agree that this book is good for picking up women, but past that use you own style. I became someone that screwed everything up. I know its my fault and not hers. And i still love her with all my heart and that make everything hard.
Kaine
Senior Don Juan
Hey DJ_Dud, thanks for the response.
I am curious about the details of your situation. I guess I don't want to make the same mistakes you made. Having attracted a giving and sexy babe who isn't a psychopath (now in a LTR).
What do you mean make it right? What problems did you identify and what did you use from the bible to solve it? Did you give your up your power and then try to reclaim it?
I am curious about the details of your situation. I guess I don't want to make the same mistakes you made. Having attracted a giving and sexy babe who isn't a psychopath (now in a LTR).
What do you mean make it right? What problems did you identify and what did you use from the bible to solve it? Did you give your up your power and then try to reclaim it?
thefonz
Master Don Juan
dj dud my guess would have to be that you applied improper techniques and ideas into you relationship at the wrong phases of it's lifeline.......in short, your timing was bad.....u were unable to make effective delivery ie. She would look at you and say "I want sex" and you'd say, "you better not be cheating on me or i'll dump your ass."
Chris Gamble
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Ding Ding Ding!
-Chris
Kaine
Senior Don Juan
Bahahahahaha!
Her: I want sex
Do you:
a) Tell her gently: Git in da kitchen and beck meh some pie ...... Biotch!
b) Politely ask your FckBuddy to leave and pat lovingly at your bedside
c) Withdraw your willy and whisper in her ear "but I'm already finished?"
d) Ask her to wait while you reconnect your dialup connection so you can post on the sosuave forum asking for help on handling her "shyte test".
"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
The advice i give is:
1. dont fight about little stuff.
2. let her have fun with her people and dont get mad cuz she's having fun without you.
3. you need to spend time without her.
4. listen to her, make her happy, and she'll do the same for you.
5. Only follow the DJ Bible up to when you get the girl, after that, it's worthless.
6. dont always listen to the people on this forum, if you try to pull half the **** they say to try, you'll lose your girl.
I dont think either of us ever had all the power, we kinda shared it and that was okay. But if this girl means something to you, follow nothing on this forum, i learned the hard way and now ive lost that girl that means so much to me. Im only on this forum to get the real truth out and disagree with the wrong with my own personal experiences. And i can quarentee that people are going to critisize me about what i say, buy fvck all that.
Kaine, you need some help, send me a message and ill give you what you want
1. dont fight about little stuff.
2. let her have fun with her people and dont get mad cuz she's having fun without you.
3. you need to spend time without her.
4. listen to her, make her happy, and she'll do the same for you.
5. Only follow the DJ Bible up to when you get the girl, after that, it's worthless.
6. dont always listen to the people on this forum, if you try to pull half the **** they say to try, you'll lose your girl.
I dont think either of us ever had all the power, we kinda shared it and that was okay. But if this girl means something to you, follow nothing on this forum, i learned the hard way and now ive lost that girl that means so much to me. Im only on this forum to get the real truth out and disagree with the wrong with my own personal experiences. And i can quarentee that people are going to critisize me about what i say, buy fvck all that.
Kaine, you need some help, send me a message and ill give you what you want