"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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BannedGod

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(in relation to a previous thread)

A girl is coming over to my house for a massage this Thursday. Obviously I want to lead this to sex. Two problems: 1) She has a guy in sight (as in it's getting hot between them) and 2) she's a virgin, and she is thinking the hollywoodien thing: "My first time HAS to be with someone special"

I want to DO this girl so bad though she is fvcking hot! But I have to escalate very slowly because I sense she will be easily freaked out. Any kind of tips to make this happen would be greatly appreciated
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Quiksilver

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I think you're taking the wrong approach...

As I see it, your mindset is: What do I have to do to fvck her?

From my experience, it should be: What do I have to do to get her to want to fvck me?

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What got her attracted to you in the first place? Stay cool, just make sure you don't do something creepy, make sure you control the flow, and throw in a joke here and there.

Don't feel like you have to talk talk talk all the time, ask her some questions and get her to open up to you. Let her talk her way into feeling this irresistible urge to fvck you.

Also what DJDamage said, keep some alcohol close at hand and have a few things lying about that you can talk about comfortably.
 

Triple T

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is she giving you a massage or you giving her one?
I can see how that can escalate to sex :D
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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