"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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It is petty.

He dates a single mom and expects to be treated like a king?

Only a cuck dates single mom's and after being warned repeatedly on this site they deserved everything coming their way.

Feminine imperative = her survival (lifestyle) 1st and that of her offsprings being 2nd.

OP as a man is merely an extention or means to fulfil the feminine imperative of that single mom.

When are men going to learn to use their brains?
I guess
When you dont have choice or abundance its hard, not pointing the finger at op.
Sometime mom are hot af.

Best way to learn is with experience, or should i say bad experience.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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I guess
When you dont have choice or abundance its hard.
All men have a choice, we're been blessed with it much more then women will ever have but he choose that path out of laziness or pure complacency to better himself and settled for less.
 

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All men have a choice, we're been blessed with it much more then women will ever have but he choose that path out of laziness or pure complacency to better himself and settled for less.
Did the same in the past (not a single mom however) but i wasted alot of my precious time on a subpar women.
I have learn.
 

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As for the ladies posting in this thread, you gals keep pointing towards the deed and keep trying to put down a new poster here with narratives surrounding the deed.

Shameful tactics.

It's not the deed but the intent behind the deed by OP's woman that's the topic.

It is clear what her intent is to any proper man here.

Ur job ladies is to protect men on this site by advising them on how to proceed with cases such as this otherwise u r useless.
 

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Everyone needs to learn some lessons on their own. I think we are losing sight that the OP was suddenly confronted with the stark realization that at some point if he continues this relationship the daughter becomes part of the equation. If he is cool with that then he should put the thing together but that’s his choice. If he wants nothing to do with the single mom he should NOT put the furniture together.... there are a ton of variables no one knows... does the single mom have brothers a dad or an uncle? Theoretically this could be a test on her part to see if he is ready for further commitment and he will do more harm than good by being nice and putting the furniture together. If he’s going to bail.
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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Chill @Spaz I’m one to advise about how to handle wiley women from the ladies’ locker room & really so are the other gals.

This is petty on the part of the OP. He’s not scoring any attraction points through his pettiness. Nor is he doing a simple task for which she can appreciate him later.

My guy sometimes cleans the pool or does other things to be helpful to me. Rarely do I need to ask. But let me tell you something. I notice that he does those things and I appreciate him and show my gratitude not only through words but through spoiling him in various ways.

OP cuts off his nose to spite his face here. Not wise.
 

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Chill @Spaz I’m one to advise about how to handle wiley women from the ladies’ locker room & really so are the other gals.

This is petty on the part of the OP. He’s not scoring any attraction points through his pettiness. Nor is he doing a simple task for which she can appreciate him later.

My guy sometimes cleans the pool or does other things to be helpful to me. Rarely do I need to ask. But let me tell you something. I notice that he does those things and I appreciate him and show my gratitude not only through words but through spoiling him in various ways.

OP cuts off his nose to spite his face here. Not wise.
There's a male and a female's job scope when it comes to relationships, cleaning pool or assisting in traditional male work at the house is part and parcel of being masculine.

But the thread here is not about the deed itself.

It's the intent behind her request and yes its petty since he himself knowingly got into that predicament.

He should not have wasted that single mom's time nor his in the 1st place.

If its just for sex/companionship then that's fine, boundaries was needed early on, even that I wouldn't recommend to any man who is young or rather below 50.

In OP case, the solution is either u r 100% in or u r not.

If u r not or reluctant, then be fair to urself and to that single mom. Let her find another man. There's tons of provider man out there hungry to prove themselves worthy of being a cuck. Let them.

Any man exposed to red pill ideology can never truly be happy with a single mom when he's young and virile. You know too much, the shift in the way you think will inevitably ruin any long term chances.

Now OP simply needs to choose the path he wants to lead but don't come running back here crying blood after getting sound advice from the forum.
 

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You shouldn't even be in this situation. Stop dating single moms.
 

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Very mixed responses as expected. I guess you can say I had her meet me in the middle and had the coworker's boyfriend assist me in putting the stuff together. Afterwards my gf cooked us dinner and bought me some beer. Everybody won.
 

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Now that was an adult solution. Win win. You showed leadership and security as a man should. Congrats!
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Glad it worked out but it was a stupid question.

Are you involved with her or not? If you are, and you agreed to help her move some heavy stuff, then help her with her kid's stuff too. What kind of d*ck would not do that?

The issue here is whether you should be messing with a single mom when you don't care about her kid.
 

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Glad it worked out but it was a stupid question.

Are you involved with her or not? If you are, and you agreed to help her move some heavy stuff, then help her with her kid's stuff too. What kind of d*ck would not do that?

The issue here is whether you should be messing with a single mom when you don't care about her kid.
You missed the point of the post but it's all good.
 
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