"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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Feedback! please... wasting time?

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ok, ive been noticing this girl in my summer class for a couple of weeks now. i've noticed that she checks me out during class. its one of those things where you catch them looking at you and then they turn kinda thing. anyhow today i finally got a chance to talk to her after class. had great conversation and everything, and found out she has a boyfriend. so i say fvck it, dont want to waste my time messing with someone with a man. so we ended the convo and as i walk ago she asked for my number,so i gave it to her.

my question is should i even bother messing with this chick? or say fvck it and it doesnt hurt to try!
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Did you find out she had a BF from her, or someone else? Either way, she asked for YOUR number, that being an IOI, my thought process for this one is always, her BF must be an AFC, so there is nothing to stop you. I'd go for it, however be cautious, because even though her BF maybe an AFC she may be 'too nice' to be disloyal. Women like to swing from 'one branch to the next' so get to know her a bit better, give her a call say 'we should go for coffee'.

Don't get oneitis though, because as I said she may remain loyal to her BF and has to make sure that if she does want to replace him, you are the right match.

Good luck fella
 

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thanks RJAMES407, good advice, but whats AFC, IOI, oneitis? i have no idea what that means.
 

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AFC - average frustrated chump, someone who follows women around like a puppy dog and caters to their every whim, ie someone a woman has no respect for.

IOI - indicators of interest, these are things women will do to demonstrate they are interested - play with hair (although common even if not interested), touch you, ask for your number...common sense really.

Oneitis - when you become so obsessed with one woman that you devote all your attention to her and she is suffocated and her interest depreciates. If you turn the situation around: would you like a girl that devoted all her attention to you and wouldnt leave you alone...i certainly wouldnt!

Hope that helps
 

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I think playing with hair is far too ambiguous as an IOI. I notice girls doing this all the time around me - even ones that I don't like and clearly don't show any interest.
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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was she the one telling you about the boyfriend? if she calls you, meet her up and just be honest with her: ask what she wants if she´s already in a relationship. it doesn´t hav eto be harder than that. It´s stupid and time consuming to play games.
 

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Aktat said:
was she the one telling you about the boyfriend? if she calls you, meet her up and just be honest with her: ask what she wants if she´s already in a relationship. it doesn´t hav eto be harder than that. It´s stupid and time consuming to play games.
well, the boyfriend thing kinda came up during the conversation... i didnt ask her or anything. I'm just gonna call her up to kick it, see what what happens
 

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that he's bad!... gets into lots of trouble. that's it! didnt really asked her about him.
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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hbxdoode said:
ok, ive been noticing this girl in my summer class for a couple of weeks now. i've noticed that she checks me out during class. its one of those things where you catch them looking at you and then they turn kinda thing. anyhow today i finally got a chance to talk to her after class. had great conversation and everything, and found out she has a boyfriend. so i say fvck it, dont want to waste my time messing with someone with a man. so we ended the convo and as i walk ago she asked for my number,so i gave it to her.

my question is should i even bother messing with this chick? or say fvck it and it doesnt hurt to try!
Say "fvck it, it doesn't hurt to try!"
 

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well, i texted her yesterday just to see what she was doing... texted back and forth couple times, then she calls me, we talked for bout 15 minutes. she said she was going to her friends house then to her bf's. i told her we should kick it tonight(which is yesterday) if she gets bored hanging out with her bf, and she said she was gonna spend the night there, and that maybe next time!.... so what you guys think?
 

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Roll with it...

Some of the most attractive women I have met and been with had boyfriends, at least in the beginning. And personally I think if you ruled out going after any woman who may be taken - regardless of knowing the quality of her relationship - you would be doing yourself a huge disservice.

If she asked you for your number and has been talking to you you're in, and I doubt she is satisfied in her relationship. You sound like a nice guy and remember your mindset is that she would be better off with you, so who cares about the guy, don't ask her about him.

A girl with a boyfriend isn't going to be quite as spontaneous as a single girl because she may need to give her boyfriend an excuse. Next time you talk to her mention something cool going on in your area a few days out, maybe something you and your friends (preferably including other girls) are going to. At the end of the conversation invite her to come tag along with you because it will be a good time.

She sounds like she's into you, keep it up and don't be afraid to let her see you hanging out with other girls either - she's the one with the bf.
 

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good sh!t attractology, i feel what youre sayin. its not like am desperate, i have no problem meeting girls, the only thing is that i'm quite picky, i tend to meet single girls and mess around and feel something wrong with them as an excuse. but this girl she's really cool, only exception from the others is that she has a bf.
well, ill see her in class in couple days, ill see what i can do.
 

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Women that have boyfriends and talk to guys are looking for branches to swing on. There really isn't anyway that you could lose with this chick. Make her a fb and have your fun. Don't pursue a relationship, just have fun with her. Once you do, she'll want to leave her man for you. Don't try to take her away from her man. Don't even talk about him. Don't guide her mind to him, but take her mind off of him by having fun with her and not giving a crap whether it goes anywhere.
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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If she gave you her number, she's interested. Call her, plan a date where you can get her alone, and make a move. That should get to the bottom of everything. Stop over-thinking things. A boyfriend means nothing.
 

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i've never tried to hollar at a chick with a bf before, so this is new to me. ill see her in class this tuesday and will start from there, i will give myself 2 weeks from tuesday to see if i can fvck her or atlease have some kind of advancement!
 

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2 weeks is a bit of a tight deadline, remember she has a bf, there is little chance that you are going to see her enough and develop a sufficient enough relationship for her to think that you are a good enough replacement for her bf in two weeks. Patience.....I'd go with two weeks for 'some kind of advancement', and when I say that i mean coffee/drink/lunch and then judge it on that.

Good luck
 

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i kinda have the same question. chicks in situation like this, will they call you and make the effort, let say if they're find you attracted or what not. or you'll have to be the one who will have to do most of the work? thanks
 
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