There's this girl I'll consider my 2nd lead (not as good looking as my primary chase, but she's pretty good to me in terms of looks), and I have no problems talking with her at school (nothing really flirtatious, just kind of chilling). But when I talked to her on MSN (GOD DAMN MSN!) today I felt nervous/butterflies in my stomach, and it made me wonder what the hells going on. Anyone ever get this feeling with a person they already know?
"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."
Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.
Fear on MSN, where have my balls gone?
- Thread starter itishe
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"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
That's why I was wondering, "what the hell is this?". After that it seemed only to go down hill with other females as well. It felt like I was trying to find the "perfect words" which would only flop. It felt like I was writing a script for a romance movie.
MSN I don't have the fear, but MSN/IM in general is a dehumanized way of talking. Keeping up conversings are harder because you don't have yourself talking to the woman and conveying yourself. It rellies heavily upon wording and trying to keep the convo interesting which can get tough.
"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
Glad to hear you worked it out, I also found out if u need promise go into some chat room and pick any girl and try some of you pick up lines and so on. It really works with good practice on somebody you will never see again when you are not able to practice on real girls.
Nzo
Don Juan
Dude that realllllly creativeGlad to hear you worked it out, I also found out if u need promise go into some chat room and pick any girl and try some of you pick up lines and so on. It really works with good practice on somebody you will never see again when you are not able to practice on real girls.
"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
I didn't want to create any unneeded threads, so I will just add this to this one.
I've been trying to be more confident (I was already pretty confident, I do alot of public speaking, etc), but I've ran into something. I'm beginning to think people see me as ****y. Teachers are seeming to come on down for no reason imaginable in my mind, and with this stigma I feel like "Who wants to talk to a ****y guy?", then I start acting weird by not talking much (I almost feel like if I were to add something it'd be out of place, which is extremely out of whack since I'm very talkative most of the time). I'm just trying to be myself and not an emotional fountain.
Second, there's this chick I sort of been going after but I'm trying to remain neutral in my showcase so I don't appear too needy or something. But today I asked to see a worksheet of hers so I could copy it and out of no reason she told me she liked "Joe" more than me. Don't know what she meant by it, but just shrug it off right?
I've been trying to be more confident (I was already pretty confident, I do alot of public speaking, etc), but I've ran into something. I'm beginning to think people see me as ****y. Teachers are seeming to come on down for no reason imaginable in my mind, and with this stigma I feel like "Who wants to talk to a ****y guy?", then I start acting weird by not talking much (I almost feel like if I were to add something it'd be out of place, which is extremely out of whack since I'm very talkative most of the time). I'm just trying to be myself and not an emotional fountain.
Second, there's this chick I sort of been going after but I'm trying to remain neutral in my showcase so I don't appear too needy or something. But today I asked to see a worksheet of hers so I could copy it and out of no reason she told me she liked "Joe" more than me. Don't know what she meant by it, but just shrug it off right?
Itishe I understand what you are saying about the confidence thing, myself I can hold a long conversation with any adult, I'm 16, but I can not get what to say to my peers. It does not make sence to me. The second thing you talked about seemed kinda like she was trying to make you like her more, I really do not know how I would of replied in a situation like this. It has never really happened to me like that before. I am also interested in knowing what to do in that situation though.
I think I said, "it's alright". Sort of to show her I don't care and won't get upset by her remarks. I'm sure it was just a test.
Kegger I had the same situation (almost exactly) I could talk to any adult and keep a conversation up as long as it weren't too out doorsy (since I'm not a huge hunter/fish, etc.), and I also noticed I was acting very wussy to my peers (females at least). Now it kind of seems the other way around, almost as if Adults see me as some ****y rebel teenager.
About that girl again, when I'm online I'm running out of things to say to her (could be a good thing and gives an impression of, huh doesn't this guy want to talk to me?), but no matter what she keeps initiating the conversation.
Kegger I had the same situation (almost exactly) I could talk to any adult and keep a conversation up as long as it weren't too out doorsy (since I'm not a huge hunter/fish, etc.), and I also noticed I was acting very wussy to my peers (females at least). Now it kind of seems the other way around, almost as if Adults see me as some ****y rebel teenager.
About that girl again, when I'm online I'm running out of things to say to her (could be a good thing and gives an impression of, huh doesn't this guy want to talk to me?), but no matter what she keeps initiating the conversation.
I wish I could get the girls to initiate the convo on msn or ect. I always have to push a convo to even get them to talk to me. I found that if you run out of things to say start a game of checkers, ect. This gives you something to talk about.
shadowfox
Don Juan
real guys dont use msn there out playing sport...
come on guys? msn? it's just showing the girl you have nothing better to do...
Converse with them on the phone and real life (the girls)
come on guys? msn? it's just showing the girl you have nothing better to do...
Converse with them on the phone and real life (the girls)
“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”
You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.
I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.
Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.
These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.