billy_bronx
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what is your favorite opening line when meeting girls and do they work. :trouble:
"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
favorite opening line
- Thread starter billy_bronx
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"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."
Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.
jesusrules
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hi, how are you.
thats what i like.
thats what i like.
Poonani Maker
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Bonjour, ca va
Randallpink83
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"I like popcorn!"
....Field tested by me in all situations.. works like a charm.
anymore though im trying everything, from simply introducing myself to running up on a girl and demanding "WHO ARE YOU?"
"ok... lets goto vegas!" is not a good opener lol. Field tested, bombage.
...I did open the other night at a club when I was free balling it. I was walking past a girl that was dancing in the lounge... "Hey i'm not wearing any boxers", she didnt say a werd, she just reached her hand into my pants and grabbed hold, hahaha... then she was like "Wow thats awesome" funny as hell, I think she was with her boyfriend though so not much more then that. Openings don't have alot of significance to me right now, I'm cold approaching so much its just becoming natural as hell... just go for it.
....Field tested by me in all situations.. works like a charm.
anymore though im trying everything, from simply introducing myself to running up on a girl and demanding "WHO ARE YOU?"
"ok... lets goto vegas!" is not a good opener lol. Field tested, bombage.
...I did open the other night at a club when I was free balling it. I was walking past a girl that was dancing in the lounge... "Hey i'm not wearing any boxers", she didnt say a werd, she just reached her hand into my pants and grabbed hold, hahaha... then she was like "Wow thats awesome" funny as hell, I think she was with her boyfriend though so not much more then that. Openings don't have alot of significance to me right now, I'm cold approaching so much its just becoming natural as hell... just go for it.
"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
I'm actually starting to use the "Excuse me I saw you over there and wanted to ask you a question" "Are you single". I know some people might not like it but I think it does the trick or if they are in sets I will open up with a canned line maybe "I need help what's a good desert for Thanks?"
Randallpink83
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lol... "excuse me I saw you over there and wanted to ask you a question.... are you single?"... awesome! Seriously! I think I will try it... I will try any opener a few times.j0n024 said:
But this opener is wrong for so many reasons that it kinda makes it right... I'm always trying to prove that your opener doesn't really matter.
Dongfu
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I prefer openers that are related to the situation. Whatever she is doing, looking at, talking about, etc. I find something interesting to add. This method goes completely under the rader, doesnt send up a bitsh shield, raises little suspicion, and doesnt set you up for rejection.
The beach is still a little tricky for me, because a girl, lying down, sunbathing, enjoying her relaxation is a difficult target to approach. I mean, what?? "Hey can you rub some sunscreen on me? Is any one laying here(motioning right next to her towel on a large beach)
But hey, I just though of a possible one that could work. You come right up behind her and to the side and sit down and say, "Hi Mandy, or whatever name you like, pretending that you thought she was someone else. You can then bypass your mistake and strike up some conversation or observation. I'll try it.
The beach is still a little tricky for me, because a girl, lying down, sunbathing, enjoying her relaxation is a difficult target to approach. I mean, what?? "Hey can you rub some sunscreen on me? Is any one laying here(motioning right next to her towel on a large beach)
But hey, I just though of a possible one that could work. You come right up behind her and to the side and sit down and say, "Hi Mandy, or whatever name you like, pretending that you thought she was someone else. You can then bypass your mistake and strike up some conversation or observation. I'll try it.
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Actually, "Hi" with a nice smile works really well for me. It is simple and and invites the woman to respond.jesusrules said:
And oh yeah, if you are having a bad day... stay home because you are going to come off as angry or desperate.
ready123
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this is exactly what I do. I observe where her attention is, put my attention there, and make a funny comment about itDongfu said:
on top of getting rid of the playa vibe, it shows you're socially intelligent
"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
Dongfu
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yaeh, trying to act like a playa just makes you look like an idiot, unless your gaming some skanky white trash hos.ready123 said:
Dongfu
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Well, i'm white, if that helps you. All I am saying is that acting like a playa, especially if your white, is just silly. Only stupid girls fall for that act.sebastionay said:
Wasnt trying to offend your trailer park queen either.
JK LOLwell im white middle class myself and use the same tactic as you on a night out as it happens, its wrong to just carectorise a race of people from a certain status background though, youl gets slags wealthy or poor from any race and not more so in some races than others really