"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Fat girl angle shot.

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Francisco d'Anconia

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Alright, it's obvious the girl is overweight but it's readily apparent that the second picture has been Photoshopped. Although I agree with the idea to be wary of dark photos and pictures at weird angles. Other things to consider are:
  • Head to shoulder Glamour Shots pictures
  • Really close up head shots
  • Sideways body shots where she has one foot in front of the other
  • Shots where she is attempting to cover other body parts
  • Shots of her hiding behind things (cars, trees, pets, other people)
  • Beware of accentuating specific body parts in order to hide the rest of her body
  • Look for folds
  • Are there any photos from other locations that may be more flattering
  • Beware of old looking photos. Take notice if the hair has changed in any way, it's a tell tale sign that the photo was taken at a different time. Not that it's a bad thing, but something to notice when doing your detective work.
  • What is she wearing? Is she using the old "I'll wear black to make me look slimmer" trick? Is she wearing a tent that camoflages her shape? (Yes, ROUND is a shape.)
The thing that you need to watch for are her hands, upper arms, jawline and chin and fingers. These are major tell tale giveaway parts of most women who aren't slender.

Going back to the original photo of that girl there are several things to notice:
  • Dark photo. Yeah it was from a cell phone but turn on a fvcking light and stop being afraid of your shadow (no matter how big it may be).
  • Weird angle. Yeah we all like a good boob shot but where is the rest of her? What is she hiding?
  • Where's her hands?
  • Alright, forget her hands, notice the folds near her shoulders?
  • Look at her upper arms around the shoulders, kinda big don'cha think?
  • Cute face but ain't it a bit chubby? She doesn't look like she has a wide head, just fat (check out the jowls as compared to the size of her chin).
  • Whoa, lots of makeup around he eyes, another distraction?
This girl was probably a looker when she was smaller and will probably make some chubby chaser happy now. I'm guessing she's either a size 14 or 16.
 
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I agree with the fat girl angle shot and what Francisco said.

I had a girl that looked good on her online dating profile but she was fat when I met her. Other what Francisco was saying I will add a few things:

- Never rely on one photo only. Ask her for some more because sometimes you do get a good angle shoot from one camera and it hides your flaws. When you got 2 or more pictures you can compare them and get a better idea of what she looks like.

- Beware photoshopping: Those days you can add a tan/whiten your picture, hide and blur your flaws or stretch the picture to make the person looks skinnier. Just look at what they did with Katie Couric: http://photoshopnews.com/2006/08/29/katie-couric-beforeafter/

- Please don't use your online dating as your only social outlet of meeting women. Either do only sarging or do both but if you rely on online dating as your only source of outlet, its going to ruin your game.
 
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Bump.
I got a PM asking about how I qualify women online and the question about finding a woman with the right personality but what should you look for in a picture so that you're not bummed by her looks when you first meet her. Here's a sample of things to watch out for when qualifying her online pictures.
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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A "NOT WORK SAFE" warning would be appreciated. Wouldn't mind a "NOT STOMACH SAFE" either. :lol:

I've had girls try not only the angle-shot, but also the 5-years-ago-when-I-was-thin shot.

If she's got a nice body, she'll show it off. If she doesn't, expect a lot of shots that cut off at about chest level. If she doesn't have at least ONE that shows the full body (even if it's not revealing), there's a reason.
 
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I know a younger chick, 21-22. Was at a friends house and she was there on his computer photoshopping a picture of her for her myspace page. I think she was slimming her thighs down, if I'm not mistaken.

This girl is actually very good looking, maybe a little bit "big boned" but I would hit it. Someone meeting her for the first time after only seeing her altered pic probably wouldn't have been disappointed.

But I can imagine what some of these other girls do. Scary.
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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