FAT and Ugly with Masculine Facial Structure

[DJnoob]

Ok,

So, some people say appearance doesnt matter and some say its all about how well you play your game.

I was thinking about this and I noticed that theres a difference between an ugly guy who really has no hope VS the other type of ugly guy who may be just fat and hairy.. but if you look beyond skin deep, this other "ugly guy" seriously has a lot of potential just by looking at his facial structure.

Lets compare the two

ugly guy #1
http://n00108.myspace.com/00108/63/23/108963236_l.jpg

VS

fat ugly guy #2
http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/louis.htm

Guy #2 has more of that "masculine" facial structure but it was covered with fat vs #1 who doesn't look as masculine. His face doesn't look as.. "strong".
Look at vin diesel, he is not "good looking".. but looks good cause masculinity is written all over is face. Or I guess you can say his face is symetrical. What you think?

(by the way, disregard all of their celebrity status)

Guy #2 may not be as good looking as brad pitt (who is considered "good looking guy") but #2 definitely looks like a "masculine man". Refer to Vin Diesel for example.


So, in my opinion there are 2 types of ugly guys.

#1 Fat and ugly who doesnt have a symetrical face . Even if he lost the weight and gained muscles, his face is not "masculine" which I think the chicks are after

#2 Fat and ugly guy who has a masculine facial structure.. meaning a symetrical face. He may not have the body yet.. But, just loose the fat and pump some iron and this guy can be a "bad boy". This guy has a
very good potential to get more chicks
than the pretty boy.



#3 Then theres the pretty boy. He just looks good

Ok guys, share your opinions.

Also include if you;re a #1 or a #2 or #3 or whatever

 

[Jake-inator]

I think we should stop worrying about things we can't change.

I've seen fat guys that can pull more woman than your pretty boy.

 

[BrotherAP]

The point is that it doesn't matter what you look like as much as your attitude does. Nobody cares if your fat, ugly, short, bald, or whatever around here. You're either the mac daddy, or you aint.

 

[JonJack]

Where the hell is this supposed to lead to? What's the goal here man?

Is it to determine whether girls will fvck an ugly dude? The answer to that is yes.

Is it to determine if ugly dudes can become desirable? The answer is yes.

Is it to determine what a person who is ugly should do to become desirable? The answer to that depends on the girl you're trying to pull.

Analysing ugliness is really a waste of time unless you're like working for a cosmetics company or a beauty parlour.

 

[MetalFortress]

I've seen girls who don't analyze men's looks as much as you guys do. This is like the male Cosmo.

 

[undesputable]

whats the point of the survey?

 

[HateOnMe]

?

Don't facial structures change too when you work out? Like a more defined jaw line?

 

[So Many Ways]

I wish I hadn't clicked on this thread.

 

[themanwithnoname]

Your theory is flawed because women do not want someone overly masculine nor overly feminine (you replaced that with ugly/fat) - They want someone in between:

http://www.imdb.com/gallery/granitz..._400.jpg?path=pgallery&path_key=Garcia, Andy (I)

http://www.filmsite.org/posters/raid.jpg

http://www.msstate.edu/Images/Film/SeanConnery.jpg

They don't have that "Vin Diesel" or "Meathead" look, trust me, women swoon over those guys and in studies women who would have one night stands with the meathead types but rather have relationships with the above linked men and the feminine/ugly guys get the shaft.

 

[skeeloo]

that dosnt prove anything .. pretty boys or masculine guys get turned down everytime... just came from a bar and saw this guy that i would say was a 9.8, hey i aint gay and i dont like rating dudes but just an example of how good looking he was, sometimes i just like observing how ppl communicate in bars genral male female stuff. there are average guys that still pull chicks. average looking guys are more successfull at pulling. there are goodllooking dudes that spank the monkey everynight without a date.

 

[Kerouwacky]

speaking as a chick...

I don't think dude #1 is fat or ugly. Yeah, he doesn't scream masculinity, he's got a round baby face a so he doesn't have a defined jaw-line. I think the main thing that diminishes his attrativeness (for me) is that his nose is too wide and he's got a weak chin, but for the most part I think he'd clean up pretty well. Take better care of his skin, clean up the brows a bit and go to a barber that knows his ****. That guy has a nice head of hair, just needs to be shaped right. And he's got pouty lips. There are chicks who're into that.

Dude #2, the after photos, he's attractive, but he looks like a lot of other guys. That and I like a nice head of hair, which he doesn't have. Though some guys rock w/out hair.

Anyway, here's the guys I'd like to see more of (in no particular order):
Justin Long - though I'm not seeing that f#cking Herbie piece of crap. He was great as Warren Cheswick on Ed.
http://us.imdb.com/name/nm0519043/

Zach Braff. The fact that Garden State was his first real movie and that he wrote, directed and starred and it kicked so much ass... And we can't forget Scrubs.
http://us.imdb.com/gallery/ss/0333766/Ss/0333766/C47-28.jpg?path=pgallery&path_key=Braff, Zach

Adam Brody- I hardly ever watch the OC either, but that Seth guy ROCKS!
http://us.imdb.com/gallery/granitz/...50_400.jpg?path=pgallery&path_key=Brody, Adam

Speaking of guys named Seth... Seth Green. Sure he's 5'4" and and kinda geeky, but he don't give a damn. He's co-creator of Robot Chicken! He's got personality +, and he's has to beat the pu$$y off with a stick. It's about attitude.
http://us.imdb.com/gallery/granitz/...83_400.jpg?path=pgallery&path_key=Green, Seth

Ben Lee... I was in love with him back in '94-95 before (I knew) he was dating Clare Danes, and he was this 16 y/o kid with a guitar and big ears and he was still going through puberty stuff. http://archives.thedaily.washington.edu/1996/011896/mouth.html And I'm still in love with him now. He's just f#cking awesome. Y'all probably think he's a wuss, but the chicks dig him. http://www.vh1.com/artists/news/1496323/01272005/lee_ben.jhtml

And I can't talk about Ben Lee w/out talking about Jason Schwartzman. Last Memorial Day weekend, I went to see Ben in Portland and Jason Schwartzman was touring with him as his drummer. I told them I wanted to buy them a drink cuz they're on my Top 10 list. Jason even flirted with me... got my picture taken with them... Ben/Jason sandwich. Like I could die right then and everything would be right in my world. I mean, how can you not love the kid from Rushmore?!
http://www.imdb.com/gallery/granitz...jpg?path=pgallery&path_key=Schwartzman, Jason

I'm starting to see sort of a pattern here.... Wow. I knew I had a "type" but I wasn't sure what exactly it was.

Just names now. John Cusack, Jon Stewart (Daily Show), Matthew Perry (Chandler on Friends), Tobey Maguire (pre and post Spiderman) etc.

Ok. ok. You guys don't give a ****, and I don't remember what my point was. Probably that a lot of it is about personality and attitude. You don't really hear about these guys acting like *******s to people (with exception of Zach Braff when he got Punk'd) and they've all got a good sense of humor.