"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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hey guys..ok..just need some random inputs.

went out with this girl last weekend...at the time i was clean shaven...since then, i've sorta grown a goatie. i have a 2nd date with her tomorrow for dinner. my friend told me that i shouldn't sport a goatee yet...cos its only the 2nd date...she needs to be in the comfort zone with me all the way before i make any changes in my appearance...so i guess what i'm askin is should i go back to the clean shaven look like the 1st date? i dont know her opinion on facial hair either...so it could be a disaster or it could turn out really good...a risk..maybe if we go out on the 3rd date, it would alright. so lemme hear some opinions....thanks!
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Yeah, man. That's a really important question.

To goatee, or not to goatee. :rolleyes:

Do wharever the fukk you want. She won't change her mind because of your facial hair.
 
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never said it was an "important" question...just wanted to get some "random opinions"...chill out dude.

its a discussion board...not everything has to be serious..i just wanted to get a general opinion. never said it was breaking news or something critical.
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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I would go with the look she knows. However, if you always had a goatee but just shaved for her on the first date, I would go with my regular look of the goatee - this is who you are.

Gradually let her see you with more facial hair and see what she says...do not change for a woman!
 
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This I gotta disagree with you on PRL,

a Guy should look however he wants without wondering if the girl will lose interest or not.

By telling him to stay with the look she knows, you are indirectly telling him to not be comfortable with what HE wants and supplicate to what the woman may want

Keep the goatee, she may like it, if she doesnt, NEXT
 
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Originally posted by sfeclipse
never said it was an "important" question...just wanted to get some "random opinions"...chill out dude.

its a discussion board...not everything has to be serious..i just wanted to get a general opinion. never said it was breaking news or something critical.
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Obiviously it was "important" enough for you to debate it! Dood your already trying too hard to be the guy you think this girl wants you to be. Fuvk her, do what makes you feel/look your best. If that means you sport a goatee, then have a goatee.



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