"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Facial Appearance Vs Body

Blaster

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For those of you out there who have average-faces: How much does working out actually improve your looks? (We're talking "Looks" here, not "game").

I've been told by many girls that facial features comes first, before body. E.g. a skinny pretty boy (ashton kutcher, stiffler etc.) would be preferred to an average dude with a muscular physique.

Besides, unless you go to the beach or wear extremely tight clothing, women are not even able to tell that you have huge pecks, or a 6-pack.

What do you guys think?
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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ScrewIt

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The difference between skinny and big. is that the big guy would probably have more confident body language than the skinny guy.

the good looking guy would probably get first glances before the average big guy.

So yes if you dont stay confident with the good looking face, it's possible to lose your woman to an average joe with the built body.
 

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oh women know it often if you have a good body or not. at least since i work out i have been asked by some girls to lift up my shirt and one begged me to strip....before no girl asked me.
 

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Originally posted by Blaster
E.g. a skinny pretty boy (ashton kutcher, stiffler etc.) would be preferred to an average dude with a muscular physique.

i don't know what stiffler you are talkin about, but if you refer to american pie's one, i can't see how you can define him skinny... have you ever seen him without a shirt on, or even with a tight shirt!? i'm not sayin' he's muscular at all, but it's what everybody calls lean and ripped, not skinny... that's the ideal physique for the beach, i think
 

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i have no fuking clue how to answer that

im athetic, and i may look good without a t-shirt.. but with one i look like a skinny guy...
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Liamz

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Originally posted by Blaster
For those of you out there who have average-faces: How much does working out actually improve your looks? (We're talking "Looks" here, not "game").

I've been told by many girls that facial features comes first, before body. E.g. a skinny pretty boy (ashton kutcher, stiffler etc.) would be preferred to an average dude with a muscular physique.

Besides, unless you go to the beach or wear extremely tight clothing, women are not even able to tell that you have huge pecks, or a 6-pack.

What do you guys think?
I've ALWAYS supported the face more than the body.
How DO you get The face in Tip-Top condition, Please?
:cool:
 

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lifting weights and keeping your body lean helps, because when you lift weights your face muscles are always tensing up and it gives your face a hardened more "masculine" appearance, and your jaw line will appear sharper and more defined, like Arnold Scwhartzenneger's jaw line, no double chin. :cool:

lots of cardio and weight training will make your face look well defined.

a good healthy diet will also improve your face, no junk food
 

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Originally posted by PoloBlue
lifting weights and keeping your body lean helps, because when you lift weights your face muscles are always tensing up and it gives your face a hardened more "masculine" appearance, and your jaw line will appear sharper and more defined, like Arnold Scwhartzenneger's jaw line, no double chin. :cool:

Ummm, I think the no double chin thing comes from having a low % of body fat.

Anyways, my opinion on the matter is that the face is the most important. I think the best example of this is jude law. He has a good face, but he doesnt lift weights or anything, so hes pretty skinny. Just look at his body in the movie The Talented Mr. Ripley. Sure the body helps, but like you said, it doesnt show that much when you have cloths on.
 
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