"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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I have not posted in a while a new thread. Any way, I have 15 years younger mother seeking to connect on Facebook. She has 2 kids and pics of the former partner. I am not sure if she was ever married to the dude, but under her relation statues she indicates "single". I am wondering why she is still have pics of her former love and father of her 2 kids. I have never come across this. Any and all experience members please reply.
Note: I don't know her and we have never met. I have not connected yet.
 

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Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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If it seems fishy, what you do next depends on your level of desperation. Personally I'd be turned off and rather look for a better opportunity than hop on this one.
She has many friends and visible posts. It doesn't look like a fake profile, but the pics of the other dude mean something. There is some kind of female game involved here.
 

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If I'm reading this correctly the "sent" part is that she sent you the request. Right?

If so, is this a result of you two having mutual friends? If not, I'd be even more leery.
If you two have mutual friends, then perhaps you two have posted under a certain posting and she liked what she read.

She could be a 'friend collector.' You can always message her and ask what prompted the request.
 

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She has many friends and visible posts. It doesn't look like a fake profile, but the pics of the other dude mean something. There is some kind of female game involved here.
I didn't mean fishy as in being a catfish, just that what you saw was odd enough to probably stay away from.
 

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If I'm reading this correctly the "sent" part is that she sent you the request. Right?

If so, is this a result of you two having mutual friends? If not, I'd be even more leery.
If you two have mutual friends, then perhaps you two have posted under a certain posting and she liked what she read.

She could be a 'friend collector.' You can always message her and ask what prompted the request.
Yes on the friend request
No on the mutual friend, yet she could be paired to a friend of one of my friends, but not necessarily.
As far as friend collector, I am not sure because she is local. I can see the local architecture in her pics. I will look at other social media. Anyway my answer is about the meaning of her former love and father of kids. There is a meaning behind it and I need to know it. In one pic, she is next to the dude in the car and she commented "I love my best friend. In another, the dude is with one of their kids and she praices him as being a good father. Furthermore, if you keep scrolling down, you see all pics of them 2 when they were together about 2 years ago.
I can anticipate she will use him as a way of being hard to get and indirect..i am expecting to have to wait cause she may use the excuse of her kids still attached to him and some BS to delay sex and control and manipulate me
 
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I have not posted in a while a new thread. Any way, I have 15 years younger mother seeking to connect on Facebook. She has 2 kids and pics of the former partner. I am not sure if she was ever married to the dude, but under her relation statues she indicates "single". I am wondering why she is still have pics of her former love and father of her 2 kids. I have never come across this. Any and all experience members please reply.
Note: I don't know her and we have never met. I have not connected yet.
Pass dude. Sounds like a whole lotta trouble.
 

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Pass dude. Sounds like a whole lotta trouble.
Give me a good reason for me to pass her up in exchange for your advice. You don't even believe or approve her as a 1 night stand or have fun for a while and move on. I am 40 and she is 25 the age gap is notorious and you have just this advice to give me????
 

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She's been 'alpha widowed' and can't forget about him. He's now the benchmark for every potential suitor to live up to. In her mind and as parents, they have a special bond for life and every man she will encounter will be compared to the fantasised version of him. You can't win.

Not even for a one night stand (too many potential risks).

I know you're tempted since she's after all a young girl showing interest in you. My advice is to stay away since mistakes could change your life (for the worse).

Since she's 25, she's probably quite new to this situation and hasn't understood that having a photo of her former (current?) lover might turn potential candidates off yet.

Drama to no end.
 

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She's been 'alpha widowed' and can't forget about him. He's now the benchmark for every potential suitor to live up to. In her mind and as parents, they have a special bond for life and every man she will encounter will be compared to the fantasised version of him. You can't win.

Not even for a one night stand (too many potential risks).

I know you're tempted since she's after all a young girl showing interest in you. My advice is to stay away since mistakes could change your life (for the worse).

Since she's 25, she's probably quite new to this situation and hasn't understood that having a photo of her former (current?) lover might turn potential candidates off yet.

Drama to no end.
Alpha widow sounds about right but that is your interpretation. She may have a different agenda like to use her love pics to keep off some guys or to game with her pic kind of like Don Juans do when they talk about other women or show up with other women to parties and **** to attract females. The idea is clear to call attention.
 

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She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

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Are you finding someone to marry up or are you trying to see if you want to plow her?

Single moms need to be plowed as well. You don’t even know her. She might make a good FWBs.
My intention is clear. fvck her.
 

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Give me a good reason for me to pass her up in exchange for your advice. You don't even believe or approve her as a 1 night stand or have fun for a while and move on. I am 40 and she is 25 the age gap is notorious and you have just this advice to give me????
A single mom with two kids? Why do you want that headache? It's best to avoid if you can.
 

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From reading your post and your responses...
I get the impression that you are arriving to a checkerboard game, with the game-rules of chess in your mind.
That's not an insult or anything. If you've gotten burned, this behavior is most common. It's something to think about though.

Anytime I see a friend chasing after a girl that is 1/2 or 2/3 their age, I always ask them one question.
What do you have to offer them ... that someone around their own age does not?

If I accused you of over-thinking, it would be a case of the pot and kettle (self included, this board is full of over-thinkers)

Harsh as this may seem, why would you invest time ... over-thinking about a 25 year old that already has two kids and either an ex husband or worse a "baby daddy?"
 

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I love it when someone asks this question. Basically everything.

He can always go back to the video game he was playing or power drinking. Take her to mcDonalds or something. He can tell her off or I can offer redemption.
What she going to learn from a guy her own age? She’s already miles in front of him.

I love how it pisses off the little boys. Fuk’em.
Because we all know that making a blanketed generalization about an age demographic has made all the young 20 something girls fawn and chase after middle-aged men.

I bet that those college aged boys are quite lonely and jealous because you are scoring with every college girl in every college town. (yes, I'm joking).
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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From reading your post and your responses...
I get the impression that you are arriving to a checkerboard game, with the game-rules of chess in your mind.
That's not an insult or anything. If you've gotten burned, this behavior is most common. It's something to think about though.

Anytime I see a friend chasing after a girl that is 1/2 or 2/3 their age, I always ask them one question.
What do you have to offer them ... that someone around their own age does not?

If I accused you of over-thinking, it would be a case of the pot and kettle (self included, this board is full of over-thinkers)

Harsh as this may seem, why would you invest time ... over-thinking about a 25 year old that already has two kids and either an ex husband or worse a "baby daddy?"
I believe it is baby daddy.
 

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Are you lookin to bang this broad? Your 40 and shes 25..totally get it..( Im 45 btw) anyway the pics of said dude is either baby daddy or some guy who who rocked her world, but does it matter..just get in there have fun and keep it moving.
 

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Are you lookin to bang this broad? Your 40 and shes 25..totally get it..( Im 45 btw) anyway the pics of said dude is either baby daddy or some guy who who rocked her world, but does it matter..just get in there have fun and keep it moving.
I can upload pics of my last gf before I let her be my Facebook friend. What do you suggest. I like to keep her on check. Yes, he is some baby daddy and no longer her banger. Probably since 2018. However, some pics show them together. The pics are posts from 2018 and not really pics saved on her Facebook..it is unknown whether she is aware. Some pics shows her hugging him like if he was a t-bone steak.
 

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Hit her up and ask her to take out for some drinks. Alcohol leads to lower inhibition. Taking her out to dinner or movies or what the fvck ever is a waste of cash...sum broads are serial daters..just want a free meal.If shes pushin for a "traditional date" you got your answer.
 

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Hit her up and ask her to take out for some drinks. Alcohol leads to lower inhibition. Taking her out to dinner or movies or what the fvck ever is a waste of cash...sum broads are serial daters..just want a free meal.If shes pushin for a "traditional date" you got your answer.
My speciality is the casino. Free drinks and pocker machines fun.
 

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The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

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