"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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facebook date went wrong.. what happened/why?

Smartone84

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if u were sending her "romantic style" messages before you even met for the first time, then you are lost and need to go back to the basics of learning the game. As far as her freaking out for you touching her too much, I dont blame her one bit. You need to read the signs before you kino escalate, and Im just guessing u didnt get any with this particular girl
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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pete101

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Bible_Belt said:
Or you could try removing "I'm sorry" from your vocabulary. Just stop apologizing. Unless you do something really bad like run over her dog, apologizing never gets you anywhere. It is nice guy behavior that repels women. Admit your mistakes when you make them, but try to never say "I'm sorry" or "I apologize."

Ignore her until after her trip. Then send her a very brief message in a couple of weeks that has nothing to do with dating, or your last date. Keep it light and fun. If you can't have fun exchanging emails, then you are not going to be fun in person.

The point of the date is to have a good time. I'd rather have fun than have to bully some reluctant chick into kissing me, which to me is no fun at all. There's a quote from The Book of Pook about first dates - "fun shall be the mission!" You were on a mission to make out, and it was no fun for either of you.
in order for me to ignore her.. she'd have to contact me somehow 1st right?

if im not in contact at all that doesn't equal ignoring.. just i got the message that she isn't interested anymore after what i did.

do u not think doing what i did requires an apology.. it's like she couldn't figure out why i kept tryna touch her like i was some groping perv.. when really i was trying to kiss her and building it up.. she doesn't know/understand this, i haven't told her yet.. but she just thinks i wanted to grope her and that isn't my intention.. i was just nervous and hesitant at the critical moment.

is it even possible to prevent her thinking that i'm some groping perv? i wanna hit on her friends so i dont need this hanging over my head.. i thought an apology and misunderstanding might be in order.

even if i leave it a few weeks the 1st thing in her mind she'll remember about me is that i kept tryna touch her.. u can't remove/forget something like that..
 

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read the dj bible as many articles as u can... u don't apologize for trying to hit on them its in man's nature to do those things. do u apologize for taking a sH*t? don't apologize for something that's natural. on the other hand if u are opening the door for her and ur hand slips and the door slams in her face... i think u should apologize for something like that.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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