"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Eye Contact Experiment

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After reading David Shade's EC experiment over at mASF I decided to do it an see what happens.

The idea is you lock your gaze on one chicks eye as soon as you see her and keep it there.

If she smiles you do, if she says hi then you do. If not you do not.

You remain a neutral face unless she smiles.

Anyway this was done on Thursday morning, I found that when I locked on the girl would fix her gaze straight ahead, or look at me quickly then glance sideways away from my gaze.

Other girls would just remain head down zombie like.

Has anyone had any extensive experience with this?
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Sir Lancelot

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Yeah I've noticed this too. Sometimes it can be the expression on your face. If you make yourself have a pleasant expression, like a slight smile, I find that people are generally more receptive.
 

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I dont know wether this is just english/western chics?

When I was in Rhodes, Greece, I remember the girls there, you would look at them and they would hold your gaze and smile slightly, like they really wanted you to talk to them.

It's weird, I dont know if they are intimidated or what, because I am a reasonable looking guy, with alpha BL. Maybe they just cant handle it and dont want to be approached or hassled in the morning?

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Where are you doing this?

I live in London and it's harder to do here because in cities (particularly in England I find) people can be a bit insular...unless it's about 11:30pm on public transport and they've had a few drinks.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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I did this out at a club one night when I was learning how to implement some of these things.

Having a smile on your face is better than a vacant stare.

What is about 10X better than having a normal smile, is having a half-smile.

You know that little satisfied grin you get sometimes?
I have been told constantly that it makes me look like I'm "up to something".

Combine that EC and the little smile.
Its so on.

It works almost too well.
 

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Originally posted by Sir Lancelot
Yeah I've noticed this too. Sometimes it can be the expression on your face. If you make yourself have a pleasant expression, like a slight smile, I find that people are generally more receptive.
absolutely. you've gotta smile, otherwise you look creepy. a smile also shows confidence, like "i'm looking at you and i want you to know i like you"
 

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some people (especially in big city) are just not friendly and/or are peranoid.
 

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If you don't have a slight smile, the girl will feel like you're staring at her.

Another thing I do to prevent staring is to look in the general direction of the girl (so I can see her, but not looking directly at her) until she is turning my way, then make eye contact.
 

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When I try to make eye contact the girls will smile or give a slight smile. I think the slight smile is a sign of shyness. I notice that the better dressed the girl the more likely she will smile. In every case I never smile first and always have a neutral face when I look at them.

I think that if you are confident girls will sense it and smile. I remember trying this experiment back when I had low self-esteem and most girl would just ignore me.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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People with low self-esteem also tend to avoid eye contact, so that might be another reason why they are averting their gaze from your EC.
 

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I've got a problem with this.
I've done the whole EC experiment and do it quite often to boost confidence...but I'm short sighted.
It doesn't seem to work when I'm wearing my glasses (I can't wear contacts)...when I've been without glasses I look to wear the girls eyes are (as a thin figure approaches)....but then notice their face ain't nearly as nice as their figure and I'm looking at them. eurgh! :eek:


I know I look much better to chicks without my glasses, but the flip side is that I can't see a damned thing further than about 20 feet from me.
 

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as a fellow near sighted guy I feel for ya. I actually have contacts also, so i can choose... but I've actually been told I look better in my glasses. so if you don't feel confident with your glasses you need to change that.

one word of advice, the next time you get a chance, go try on lots of frames and get yourself one that works well.

the last time I got glasses, i stopped settling for a cheap pair and got a nice trendy black rimmed rectangular frame design... I also asked for a lot of help picking it out... basically if you have a round face, like mine, you want angular square frames... and if you have a hard chiseled face with lots of long angles, you want a round glasses... that was what i was told.

anyway, I walk around all the time with glasses and it doesn't seem to effect my EC yet... at least that's not a problem i've noticed.
 

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I am a strong believer in winning the initial EC battle.

SHE LOOKS AWAY FIRST. Or its a staredown.

It's as primitive as it can be. I stare at my prey, let them know who the man is, when they show there weakness by looking away... I am the one with the power
 

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Eye Contact works really well

the one where you make it while talking to an HB of course

I had this chick in class and I was just profilin some eye contact after reading about it here

for some reason, she was hooked

everyday she'd start a convo and show signs

eye contact while a convo really works
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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EC is one of the most important things in a DJs arsenal.

I've read a number of studies that all come to the same basic conclusion-that eye contact with a chick your DJing/sarging/whatever will tip the odds in your favor pretty substantially.

First, it makes the brain release PEA. If you don't know what it is, Google it because I'm just too lazy to type it out. But **** the studies...I've been using this EC thing to my advantage for almost a year now with kickass results.

Not only with women, but in life in general, good EC skills display confidence.
 
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