Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.
She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.
Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.
So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.
The words come later. The impression comes first.
When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.
Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.
Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.
The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.
LoL reading through your post I had an 'attention wh0re alert' pop up in my mind and that last sentence right there pretty much confirms my suspicions. She's using you for attention/validation/ego boost. Your only chance with her is to ignore her and make her jealous by using other girls.Juicyjays said:She has a lot of guy friends as well, thought I'd put that in there too.
You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.
She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.
Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.
Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.
Are you a virgin?Juicyjays said:Hello,
I'm a 22 year old apprentice cook who is trying to get out of the AFC slump. Been reading articles on this forum for awhile now, so I thought I'd finally grow some balls and finally try to land me a girl (I've never had a girlfriend).
Translation = Give me a call, tiger!Juicyjays said:One night she came up behind me, sort of bit my shoulder (made a purring noise), gave me her card and walked away.
Translation = come and play with me.Juicyjays said:That night, she calls me unexpectedly out of the blue telling me she forgot to thank me for giving her a joint (which she actually thanked me for at work) and she asked if I wanted to come over to her place.
What the hell do you talk about for 5 hours? What took her so long to realize you were not gonna make a move?Juicyjays said:I agreed. I went over and she sat pretty far away from me which was strange (my own fault, I should of sat beside her).. we talked non stop for 5 hours, then I went home. I think I was a bit of a wuss there and should of at least attempted to sit right beside her to test her comfort zone.
MEMO #2: YOU REJECTED HER FOR THE SECOND TIME!!!Juicyjays said:I say I'm over at my friends, helping him out, and that I'm gonna go home in a bit. She texts me again and says "you should come.. its fun," but by then I was way too exhausted, so I had to tell her I couldn't, was just way too beat. She messages me back saying "You let me down..lol".
If you have something set, you don't ask if she wants to chill. You tell her, "Hey, what time will you be ready?", after she said she was shopping, you ask, "What time will you be home?". Always lead. She even proceeded to hint at you to be persistent and tell her you want to see her.Juicyjays said:We were supposed to hang out the day after, so I call her (2nd time I've ever called her, I let her call me instead) and ask her if she wants to chill. She says she's christmas shopping and that 'maybe if i went out, i'd be hanging out with her right there'. Dunno if she was joking or not.
Noooooooooooo! Very very bad. That came across as very weak and supplicating. Had you done it before, on the spot, without sounding apologetic, it might have not been as bad, but once you are doing it because you think she's being cold to you, you are only asking for trouble. You are acting very predictably, like her many trained doggies.Juicyjays said:Next day at work, she gives me the cold shoulder for a bit, and we were sitting downstairs and I told her "You know, I really wanted to go and hang out with you, but I had to get some rest. I hope you understand."
You gave her no choice but to stat playing games with you.Juicyjays said:Then I say "You wanted me there, didn't you?" She smiles and says she'll give me another chance. Mind you this girl is extremely hard to read. She is always smiling, even when she's stressed out (she's told me this).
Translation: I am acting like the guy, chasing you, and you are not being masculine and assertive, but difficlut, passive and clueless. Role reversal.Juicyjays said:She drives me home and says something to me.
"You know, you are just like me, exactly like me, except you have a penis." I had no idea what the hell to say.
This is the area where you had no business allowing this situation to get to. A more experienced DJ could still salvage this one, but you don't seem to pick up on the most obvious signs she was consistently throwing at you earlier.Juicyjays said:She asks me if I wanna go for coffee tommorow, I say sure, no problem. She then calls me the day of telling me that she dosen't feel like it now since she's so tired (oddly enough), she'd rather go home and hang out by herself with her girlfriend.
Talk about a major demotion there. Going from being with her alone at her house one night, to coffee at 2pm. That's like going from the major leagues to playing high school baseball. There is nothing sexy about coffee after being in her house with her practically throwing herself at you.Juicyjays said:I tell her she's missing out and she says laughing "Karma's a biotch isn't it??," she tells me she can hang out with me on Wendesday at 2pm, I say "Are you for sure this time?" She says yes.
If she blows you off, you make one last effort and demand she make it up to you. And suggest getting together at her house. If you make it there again, you make a move and give her what she wants.Juicyjays said:If she blows me off again, I'll take it as a rejection and move on.
SHE IS PISSED YOU DIDN'T MAKE A MOVE ON HER. Women don't like rejection any more than we do. They dislike even more when they put it out there and the guy doesn't even see the obvious.Juicyjays said:I'm sorry for the lengthy post, but am I doing something wrong here? Is she pissed I blew her off that night?
She knows you are interested in her, but she also knows you don't know what the score is. Don't tell her you like her. That won't change her mind. At this point, it is all about doing. If you can get her alone again, you give it to her. Whatever you do, don't tell her you like her.Juicyjays said:She must know I am interested in her, or do I have to have the balls and come out and tell her I like her? I just started to get to know her and I am pretty shy when it comes to making a move, it's hard for me to tell when is the right time.
Off course she does. She's social and knows a lot of men. She's a bartender. She's hot and popular. A lot of those men are just friends that also were wusses and/or didn't know how to pick up on her signals. She puts most men through alot of rituals before letting them see her naked. She gave you a small window of opportunity to get freeky, you let it pass.Juicyjays said:She has a lot of guy friends as well, thought I'd put that in there too.
Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."
You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.
She's been waiting forty minutes.
Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.
Don't be telling him to disregard everyone else's opinion. Everyone has a different opinion and no one has the "right" answer. It's up to the OP to decide who's advice is useful and who's isn't.katatonia said:Do not listen to anyone else in this thread. Read this:
I'M 99.99% SURE THIS GIRL IS PLAYING YOU FOR ATTENTION. IF YOU WANT TO HIT THAT, YOU HAVE TO IGNORE HER AND PLAY JEALOUSY GAMES.
If you HAD tried to make a move she would've pushed you away and said something along the lines of "I thought we were just friends" then proceeded to string you along with mixed signals for an ego boost.
That is all.
Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.
katatonia said:Do not listen to anyone else in this thread. Read this:
I'M 99.99% SURE THIS GIRL IS PLAYING YOU FOR ATTENTION. IF YOU WANT TO HIT THAT, YOU HAVE TO IGNORE HER AND PLAY JEALOUSY GAMES.
If you HAD tried to make a move she would've pushed you away and said something along the lines of "I thought we were just friends" then proceeded to string you along with mixed signals for an ego boost.
That is all.