"The Kiss of Death Mistake"

You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?

Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.

One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.

Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.

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Being a challenge. And its correlation with playing hard to get. It creates mystery and makes the girl want more, therefore attraction goes up. But how do you make it work in your favour? Say this girl you are in a semi-relationship with is currently in control. You want to regain that control. She makes it difficult by being distant or not replying to texts... or rather, by playing games.

Speaking of playing games, how is it different than the aforementioned concepts?

Now again, she plays games... how do you reverse this and instead of her having the upper hand in the relationship, you take that from her?

I have a thread in the High School forum here, that outlines some background info on why I'm asking this... you don't have to go there. I just primarily want some clarification on these concepts. If you do go there though, be prepare to read some gruesome AFC stuff (not as bad as others though, as I may say), because I'm 17. :D

Thanks guys!


- Seis
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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will like pook says, we have to see ourselves as the great Catch. Women also want to see as as the great Catch. The idea behind being a challenge, is letting a woman think that she is the one seducing you, while in actuality you are the one seducing her.

So instead of approaching her you let her approach you. You just have to hang around the perifery of her life for a while and she will notice you and hopefully be intrigued. This way women won't have any doubts about you and your ulterior motives. You just come off as an easy going guy who doesn't want anything from them.
 

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Chamber36 said:
will like pook says, we have to see ourselves as the great Catch. Women also want to see as as the great Catch. The idea behind being a challenge, is letting a woman think that she is the one seducing you, while in actuality you are the one seducing her.

So instead of approaching her you let her approach you. You just have to hang around the perifery of her life for a while and she will notice you and hopefully be intrigued. This way women won't have any doubts about you and your ulterior motives. You just come off as an easy going guy who doesn't want anything from them.
Well, said. Have you been reading the Art of Seduction as well?
 

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Art of Seduction?

Hmm, I have read what Pook as posted. But this is what I'm confused about; how do you do it so that you always end up the one with the higher value/always the one who comes out on top?
 

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Thanks for the detailed reply.

One more thing then; what if she's doing the same thing, as an effort to try to maintain/take control?
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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You know, you've made me realize some things I should have realized earlier. LOL

Thank you very much guys. Anyone else want to contribute? :F
 

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Chamber36 said:
will like pook says, we have to see ourselves as the great Catch. Women also want to see as as the great Catch. The idea behind being a challenge, is letting a woman think that she is the one seducing you, while in actuality you are the one seducing her.

So instead of approaching her you let her approach you. You just have to hang around the perifery of her life for a while and she will notice you and hopefully be intrigued. This way women won't have any doubts about you and your ulterior motives. You just come off as an easy going guy who doesn't want anything from them.
Well said. But note that for this to work, she is going to have to be attracted to you. This is good for making sure you end up with the right power dynamic, but if she's not interested in you, she's not going to care if you're a challenge or not.

But there are things you can do to increase the likelihood of attraction: Kino, good eye contact, stay in shape, etc.
 

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zekko said:
Well said. But note that for this to work, she is going to have to be attracted to you. This is good for making sure you end up with the right power dynamic, but if she's not interested in you, she's not going to care if you're a challenge or not.

But there are things you can do to increase the likelihood of attraction: Kino, good eye contact, stay in shape, etc.
Indeed, but there's no point in trying to create attraction in anyone who's not interested unless you know what specifically would change their mind, and somehow know how to plant it into their head without qualifying yourself.

Here's a quote from "The Art of Seduction", page 191. On Sending Mixed Signals.

"Nothing can proceed in seduction unless you can attract and yold your victim's attention, your physical presence becoming a haunting mental presence. It is actually quite easy to create that first stir - an alluring style of dress, a suggestive glance, something extreme about you. But what happens next? Our minds are marraged with images - not just from the media but from the disorder of daily life. And many of these images are quite striking. You become just one more thing screaming for attention; your attractiveness will pass unless you spark the more enduring kind of spell that makes people think of you in your absence. That means engaging their imaginations, making them think there is more to you than what they see. Once they start embellishing your image with their fantasies, they are hooked."
 
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