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Billasec
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Any General thoughts or expierences you guys have that you want to share?
I personally am thinking about it, any advice?
I personally am thinking about it, any advice?
"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
Generally not cool to long c0ck... especially if you know the guy.
But as they say, all is cool in love and war...
And, "its easier to steal someone elses girlfriend than to keep your own."
Basically same rules would apply as if she were single in terms of how you would act around her.
I personally shy away from chicks with BF, because, even if I succeeded in getting her, I would still think of her lack of loyalty as a red flag. For me it is a catch 22.
Anyways, don't spend too much time on it, but I guess it can be fun if you haven't had that experience.
Live and learn. Do what you must, you will anyways.
Andromax
But as they say, all is cool in love and war...
And, "its easier to steal someone elses girlfriend than to keep your own."
Basically same rules would apply as if she were single in terms of how you would act around her.
I personally shy away from chicks with BF, because, even if I succeeded in getting her, I would still think of her lack of loyalty as a red flag. For me it is a catch 22.
Anyways, don't spend too much time on it, but I guess it can be fun if you haven't had that experience.
Live and learn. Do what you must, you will anyways.
Andromax
I think pursuing a girl that has a b/f is a total waste of time. Why bother when there are so many good looking single girls out there? Besides, even if you do manage to get to steal one from her man, what makes you think she won't do the same to you?
Like many other guys, I learned through experience. I went after one my first semester in college who had a b/f. At first I didn't even know she was taken because she'd flirt with me a lot, but later I realized she was probably just using me to entertain herself while her b/f was away back home.
Trying to steal another's girl is low IMO. I'm sure you wouldn't want that to happen to you with a girl you really loved.
Like many other guys, I learned through experience. I went after one my first semester in college who had a b/f. At first I didn't even know she was taken because she'd flirt with me a lot, but later I realized she was probably just using me to entertain herself while her b/f was away back home.
Trying to steal another's girl is low IMO. I'm sure you wouldn't want that to happen to you with a girl you really loved.
I'm Joe Dirt
Master Don Juan
yeah, I've noticed that most good girls are now taken, which doesn't leave many options.
The older one gets the more likely it is that women that rate 7/10 or better are going to be taken. I'm 19 now and most college girls around my age (18-22ish) are taken if they look good. The only single ones (who coincidentally seem to like me the most) are ones who are overweight by enough to make them unattractive.
I think I would have no problem stealing someone else's gf, though loyalty may become an issue. I might have my doubts then, I guess, but its better than being alone or with someone I have no or little attraction too. Who knows how things work out anyway, maybe her relationship is already on the rocks or maybe you can wait them out and see.
It's not good to just discount them right away cause they're taken at the moment without finding out how serious it is first and whether or not you can wait them out or something.
The older one gets the more likely it is that women that rate 7/10 or better are going to be taken. I'm 19 now and most college girls around my age (18-22ish) are taken if they look good. The only single ones (who coincidentally seem to like me the most) are ones who are overweight by enough to make them unattractive.
I think I would have no problem stealing someone else's gf, though loyalty may become an issue. I might have my doubts then, I guess, but its better than being alone or with someone I have no or little attraction too. Who knows how things work out anyway, maybe her relationship is already on the rocks or maybe you can wait them out and see.
It's not good to just discount them right away cause they're taken at the moment without finding out how serious it is first and whether or not you can wait them out or something.
"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"
When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.
Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.
Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.
The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.
backbreaker
Master Don Juan
depends on the TYPE of girl.
If I meet a girl that is in a relationship, and I think she is LTR material, I will leave her alone, or just remain strictly friends with no sexual interest.
However, if I get the impression that she is a freak and happends ot be taken, I could care less.
If I meet a girl that is in a relationship, and I think she is LTR material, I will leave her alone, or just remain strictly friends with no sexual interest.
However, if I get the impression that she is a freak and happends ot be taken, I could care less.
octane_orphan
Don Juan
I agree its catch 22. However its surprising how many girls are with there bf arent happy with them. I read somewhere that 60% of women in relationships are happy with there fella.
I kinda dated a girl in work that was living with her bf. She used to txt me all the time and we used to chat alot in work. I made the mistake of slagging off her bf for being a losser with no ambition (yeah ... i know now) and things kinda went down hill from there. Also she always said that she felt bad about the closeness of our relationship and felt that she was going behind his back.
My advice - if she is giving you a high IL then go for it, bit it needs very sensitive handling!
I kinda dated a girl in work that was living with her bf. She used to txt me all the time and we used to chat alot in work. I made the mistake of slagging off her bf for being a losser with no ambition (yeah ... i know now) and things kinda went down hill from there. Also she always said that she felt bad about the closeness of our relationship and felt that she was going behind his back.
My advice - if she is giving you a high IL then go for it, bit it needs very sensitive handling!