Experiment: asking female friends for advice

[gonzo]

I thought it would be an interesting experiment to ask some of my female friends for their opinion on an opening that I would consider using in an approach. In my experience one should never ask women for advice on these matters.

Opening: "Hi, I noticed you [etc] and I wanted to meet you."
Good points (IMO): Simple, direct, confident.
Bad points not immediately obvious to me.

My female friends' reactions to this line were almost without fail negative. Comments I got were that it was too forced, not natural, too direct and creepy even. One of my friends said she liked it and thought it was quite manly. The others looked at her as if she'd just admitted to fantasising about 12 year old boys.

The moral of this experiment is that you should never ask women for advice. I think that this line could potentially work on any of them. In hypothetical situations women expect to be swept off their feet when the simple truth is that it is just an opening. Not the be all and end all. What the fcuk do they expect?

But that's my view, what do you guys think? Have you ever had bad experiences getting advice from women?

 

[Cheiradawg]

In general asking women for advice on women is not a good idea.

First off alot of women aren't even sure what "works" on them, so how is one woman or a group of women going to be able to speak for women as a whole. Second if they did know, there still is alot of social programming women speak through when talking about men. i.e. When one of the girls you talked with admited to liking "manly" men, she was visably scolded by her peers.

Finally, just cut the crap. Don't talk to women about other women. If you want to talk about women find a man who has success with them. He will speak in terms you will understand.


If you have a sister of dating age, she might be another option.

Also I think that your line you have there is great. I use it alot.

 

[DJmike]

what kinda of word would you use in the "etc" part... are beautiful?? sounds to quick to me, in short it would be "your hot so i wanna meet you" i dont know.. if it works for you use it then.

 

[gonzo]

No I don't think it's a good idea to say she's beautiful. You're handing over too much power. The most you should do is pick up on an item of clothing or if absolutely necessary a feature and say you like it.

The [etc] should be filled by some particulars of the situation you're in. So if you noticed her when she walked in say exactly that: "I noticed you when you walked in...".

 

[Jariel]

Originally posted by gonzo
The moral of this experiment is that you should never ask women for advice. I think that this line could potentially work on any of them. In hypothetical situations women expect to be swept off their feet when the simple truth is that it is just an opening. Not the be all and end all. What the fcuk do they expect?

But that's my view, what do you guys think? Have you ever had bad experiences getting advice from women?

Or the moral may be that the line is just not very good. Remember to keep an open mind at all times.

I started to shut my mind off to female advice when I started getting into DeAngelo and SoSuave, but I'm now finding that most advice I get from females is actually very good. And I'd always take a woman's advice over a man's in terms of physical appeal, grooming and fashion.

 

[DJDamage]

Its not what you say but how you say it.

Its not the delivery that counts but the actual person that says it.

If a woman is attracted to a man physically, he can say whatever he wants and he would still be in better position then a man who says things confidently and right but she is repulsed by him.

Never listen to a woman advice on dating. They will tell you what they think works on them and because every woman has a different prefrence, you will get a bad advice.

Women also tend to give you a politically correct answers so you won't know the brutal truth, in order to protect themselves and their gender. Think about the last time a new chick asked you what is the first thing you noticed about her and you said her eyes (in reality it was her Double D's breasts but you know better then hitting her hard with the truth - Its the same deal with women)

 

[LADawg49]

You guys are right for the most part but there are always exceptions. For example if you go to: http://www.askheartbeat.com , this woman gives relationship advice to guys and girls and for the most part she tells it like it is. The responses she gives to these AFC guys who ask for advice is for the most part very similar to the stuff that I read on this site..