"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Experience After First Sex

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Did you guys want more of it? Did you feel more open to it? (im NOT talking about confidence issue here) but as in, everything else besides that, and how you view women
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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I didn't have sex until I was a lot older. I thought it was a big deal until I did it let me tell you it's not that big of a deal. Once you do it though you become a lot more confident and don't try as hard to get it. I mean don't get me wrong I like it but it's not as great as I thought. It was like a domino effect though once I did it once it was easy to get more.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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The Sperminator

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This is just for all the virgins on here. Don't give up. I was the most pathetic afc ever. I couldn't get dates, I didn't even get my first kiss until I was 21 and it was because we were playing truth or dare at a party and somebody dared a girl to kiss me and she didn't even want to do it. Hell I never even went on a date. I spent all my time at home. Until this year I changed myself. I started observing what others did and started reading stuff from this site and now I'm pretty damn good. Still learning but my life changed this year. Now I get girls all the time. I go on dates all the time now and after my first time having sex I had it with like 3 different other girls in a few months after that. Now I have girls calling me all the time. I have one girl who even buys me dinners and even fills my gas up sometimes lol. So don't ever give up you can change. I did.
 

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My first time having sex I didn't cvm and was some what awkward. Yes, I wanted more of it. I wanted to get better at it and have more experience.
 

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The Sperminator said:
This is just for all the virgins on here. Don't give up. I was the most pathetic afc ever. I couldn't get dates, I didn't even get my first kiss until I was 21 and it was because we were playing truth or dare at a party and somebody dared a girl to kiss me and she didn't even want to do it. Hell I never even went on a date. I spent all my time at home. Until this year I changed myself. I started observing what others did and started reading stuff from this site and now I'm pretty damn good. Still learning but my life changed this year. Now I get girls all the time. I go on dates all the time now and after my first time having sex I had it with like 3 different other girls in a few months after that. Now I have girls calling me all the time. I have one girl who even buys me dinners and even fills my gas up sometimes lol. So don't ever give up you can change. I did.
so, after you lost it, what you're trying to say is that... you are MORE open to the sex part.. meaning, yeah, "ITS JUST SEX" it feels good, I want it, but yeah, "ITS JUST SEX" no biggy

? VS being a virgin,

Virgins, as much as wanted to do it, you are still somewhat scared because you might do something wrong ex: kissing part, date might make fun of your d1ck size, performance, cumming to soon????????????????????
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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War Against Betaism

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It's like The Sperminator said, it felt good but it isn't the ecstasy that its made out to be. There was this one time where I could have lost it much earlier than I did, but I was scared that I might blow my wad in like a minute cause I didn't have a condom and I didn't want her to think I was weak. Though when my first time did come, I was honestly like "This is sex?!" and lasted 15 minutes without a condom. Probably could have been longer but I was tired.

Sex is great but if there was an exact value I would pay every time I wanted to fvck, it'd probably be like $5 or $10.
 

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First time I ****ed, we went at it for a good hour. She was tired lol. Our sessions after that, not many, she lived rather far. Managed to go on for a good amount of time. My problem, I realize, is not having been out there enough, and not having an active enough life. Today, while going to and on the back on the train for school, registering, I saw like 6 hb's ranging from 7-9. I am in this situaition alot. It's social/approach anxiety. I mean, ideally, you want her to be all warm and receptive to you. But what if she's not?

I haven;t been making the changes I want too. I have given up too easily. I am going to make it stop. Sperminator, how old are you?
 

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first time i had sex i was messed up on ecstasy (former raver) and i was alot younger than i should have been. only 15

really, after that it became less important, sure i love it and there are some chicks out there i'd give up red meat for a month to nail, but as time passed by and i had a few partners it just became something you do with someone you care about.

Don't worry about being a virgin, seriously. the stress is killing you and should the opportunity arise it's a nasty obstacle to overcome.

Another thing, when it comes to actually reaching sex, if it's too much pressure just tell the girl you're a virgin, by this time you'll probably have a decent relationship with her and she'll be understanding. (sounds strange but being honest really is the best case here IMO)

and for god sakes don't just pound her!

like frued said, the only abnormal sex life is none.
 

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Hey Aragorn, I heard having sex while you're rolling is one of the bombest feelings ever. I heard that normal sex would be so insignificant without dropping a pill, is that true?
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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well... depends what you're after.

Raw hardcore "how the hell did my panties end up on the ceiling fan" and "where are my pants?" is usually what ends up when 'rolling'. Its great for awhile, but it's like having too much of a good thing, you want more and that's where i drew the limit. I'm not gonna be dependant on a pill for sex (at least not now when i'm virile dammit!)

Regular sex to me is something i want with someone i care about, depending on our mood, anywhere from wild "Oh god my **** looks like a pretzel!" to that soft making love style.

my raver days are long over, i lived and i learned.

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Again,


A) After loosing your virginity are you WORRIED LESSSS ABOUT SEX? (not as scared as when you were a virgin because it was an unknown experience to you)

B) Seduction becomes a template meaning...
1. u ask for her number.
2. take her out, do the talking routine
3. get laid

C) How is your confidence level? how much did it increase

D) Did you loose your approach anxiety?
 

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after first losing my virginity I was on top of the world. Then sex didn't matter as much. It still doesn't to me. Some people are too obsessed with it IMO.

On that note I just had an amazing night of sex and drinking and feel fvcking wonderful, but tired.
 

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So let me get this straight:

Since all the DJers don't care too much about sex we are only here to learn how to chat with women and not bed them since it's not a great experience anyway?

You guys realize that this "sex is not that great" will be an excuse the next time you are gaming and fail. The way I see it, sex is more than an experience, it is checkmate. You call the shots now. But if you're still playing the game with her, then you are still her LJBF boy.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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