"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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In short, how do you guys respond or act when she wants a relationship with you but you're not looking for one but at the same time you still wanna keep on seeing her and take her to space mountain.

I can get away from other girly crap but I'm stumped on this one. Any help suggestions comments? This hasn't happened to me recenelty but I'd rather be prepared besides someone else might learn from this post! :rock:
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Eventually she'll leave. I've been thinking hoping to find a better solution =)
 

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chippendale said:
Eventually she'll leave.
No. She wont. Thats the horsesh!t you're intended to believe. If her IL is sufficient in you, you could call her mother a hoar and she'd still crawl under barbedwire to get the opportunity to fukk you every way till Tuesday, but if you believe she'll "leave you", she will. Tommy Lee can bang any chick he desires, and Pam Anderson will spread her legs for him ever time, but when he says "you're the only one", her legs close.
 

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Rollo Tomassi said:
No. She wont. Thats the horsesh!t you're intended to believe. If her IL is sufficient in you, you could call her mother a hoar and she'd still crawl under barbedwire to get the opportunity to fukk you every way till Tuesday, but if you believe she'll "leave you", she will. Tommy Lee can bang any chick he desires, and Pam Anderson will spread her legs for him ever time, but when he says "you're the only one", her legs close.
This is so true. Before me and my ex started going out her interest level was through the roof. I kept telling her "I didn't want a girlfriend" and she said she didn't want a boyfriend, so I just kept to myself. However, she did not stop.. her interest level just grew and grew. Of course, once I asked her out her IL dropped completely. I was no longer a "catch" and it got boring fast.

From my experience, if you're looking for a relationship then ask her to be exlusive quickly (if that's your intention.) By quickly, I mean in a reasonable time.. once you feel you're both ready. But once you drag it out accross a certain amount of time, and it just becomes a game of cat and mouse.. once she gets the mouse, it's all over. Atleast from my experience.
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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Use humor to brush it off -- "I just want to take you to space mountain - not to the moon" or something silly.

or...

Just say a ltr is a serious thing and that develops over time - let's just enjoy ourselves and see where this leads.
 

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You guys are right #4 - #6. I'll usually do that...brush it off and keep the plates spinning. but lately i've been sarging in mexico and when this exclusivity crap popped up i'd just humor it and that was that. They would just not want to continue any further.

Now im thinking either
1. mexican girls are a little different? (naaaahhh)
or
2. they werent woman enough for me ;)
 

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Don't humor it, be 100% serious that you're not ready for a serious commitment. She'll keep trying to find ways to win you over. It's amazing what lows women can stoop to. You'll know when it's time to cut her loose (when she gets EXTREMELY annoying and the sex isn't worth putting up with her 5hit)

However, she WILL get rid of you if she hears her biological clock ticking. It usually happens with women age 25+
 

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oohh yeah I don't put up with bs.

a little about my experimentations with girls from Mexico living in Mexico.

5 wanted exclusivity and I of course told them I didnt want a serious commitment and boom! losing contact was the next big thing :p

1 wanted exclusivity and I agreed. I agreed for experimentations sake and I knew it wasn't going to last long. she was living in town A for a while but from town B. I knew she was going to move to a different city.

After agreeing her IL increased even more and just went going up up up. After 2 months she finally left to her city and she still contacts me.

I first met her in September and haven't gone sarging in Mexico since I've been too busy with school. But now...hehehe vacation time its on!
 

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Mexicans want children (no offene, its just their culture) and if you aren't producing fruit... u'll get the boot soon


-Cod3r
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Assuming you are at an age and with a woman you might want to be monogamous with, NEVER ask a woman to be exclusive with you. She must be the one to suggest exclusivity. This sets the frame for the entire relationship. I cannot stress this enough - this confirms her IL as high and makes your exclusive attention a commodity she sought after, literally making you the PRIZE. When you petition for exclusivity you hand all of this over to her.
 

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Rollo, what about a girl who asks for exclusivity because she's scared of losing the prize to another girl or two, but once the DJ agrees reluctantly, she gets buyer's remorse and looks for attention from other males?

This subcommunicates to me that she was just having fun playing the field and winning him over. That she has no wish to settle down into a serious LTR.

Possible fears of abandonment or losing her options(plates -- guys,exs-fbs,etc.) come to mind when she announces she official has an exclusive b/f.
 

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Rollo Tomassi said:
Assuming you are at an age and with a woman you might want to be monogamous with, NEVER ask a woman to be exclusive with you. She must be the one to suggest exclusivity. This sets the frame for the entire relationship. I cannot stress this enough - this confirms her IL as high and makes your exclusive attention a commodity she sought after, literally making you the PRIZE. When you petition for exclusivity you hand all of this over to her.
I agree 100% with you.

Unfortunatelly (hahaha)...that's how my current girlfriend wanted it too! She wanted to go exclusive.
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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