"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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Ex owes me money-how to proceed?

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Hey

I loaned my ex of 3 years about 3500$ so she could pay her tuition/food/rent about a year ago. She knew she would have to pay me back and had borrowed smaller amounts of money earlier and paid those back. I know, I know, I'll never do that again.

We broke up last November, I got her to sign a formal loan agreement and had it signed and witnessed/notarized. She made the first payment in December.

She has messaged me at least a few times a week since the breakup asking to hangout and do stuff. Other than getting her to sign the loan papers we have hung out once for a few hours. Since then she has been messaging me more and more to get me to hangout with her. I've been giving her pretty much one word responses and saying I'm busy.

She sent me an ultimatum message about an hour ago. She's frustrated that I don't seem to want to hangout with her or that I give one word responses. She made it pretty clear she wants to still be friends and do **** we used to do in our relationship all the time.

I do not want to be friends with her, at least not while I still have feelings for her, maybe in a year or two after I've moved on. However she still owes me $3100 Legally she has to pay that back and I could take her to small claims court for it if she misses payments but I'd rather avoid that hassle altogether. She has very low income and is in school so I'm worried she may somehow get some sympathy in court and get out of the payments.

Should I feign friendship in order to continue collecting my payments or is having the legal paperwork signed good enough to ensure the cash keeps flowing?
 

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Bible_Belt

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Who dumped who? It sounds like she still wants to be with you.

Collecting on judgments against low-income people can be very difficult. I think you're right about that.
 

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Rule of thumb:
Never give a woman any money, even if she is your wife, because she will lead you into financial instability.


$3,500= a round trip to Thailand.
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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dustmuffin

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If you will be having sex continue...just friends hell no....you may try the friendship flute if you really want your money. Just because you sue and get a judgement dosent mean you will get your money. I have sued and still didn't get paid. No money no pay.
 

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Who dumped who? It sounds like she still wants to be with you.
Collecting on judgments against low-income people can be very difficult. I think you're right about that.
I broke up with her but it was a pre-emptive breakup as I knew it was coming sooner or later. She wants to be friends because she doesn't have any other than me and was probably pump n dumped at work.

Rule of thumb:
Never give a woman any money, even if she is your wife, because she will lead you into financial instability.
$3,500= a round trip to Thailand.
Agreed. Lesson learned.
Is she actually paying you? If not, then pursue legal action. You do not owe her attention to get your money.
Why is this rocket science?
Understood.
 

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Is she actually paying you? If not, then pursue legal action. You do not owe her attention to get your money.

Why is this rocket science?
Legal action doesn't work all of the time. If she is still paying him as a friend go that route because it is easier. It costs money to sue then you get a judgement. She still won't pay if she has no cash.

Depends on local laws but here it doesn't make a damn if you have a judement or not. Judge basically says pay the man. Garnish pay? No job? Quits gets another dosent report it to court? Many ways around paying if you want to be a deadbeat.

Stay here friend get paid and dump after.
 

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Tuition for your life lesson here comes to a total of $3,500 minus December's payment. Consider this your receipt.

You need to get out of this tangled mess and live.
 

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Should I feign friendship in order to continue collecting my payments or is having the legal paperwork signed good enough to ensure the cash keeps flowing?
Insufficient data.

How much is $3500 worth to you? How much would your time cost, per hour to hang with her to get it back.

How do you know she's not trying to hang with you to AVOID paying it back?

I'd grab your balls (well, I wouldn't grab YOUR balls lol) and have an honest sit down with her. Explain you're just not interested in being friends. And it really bothers you she can't pay you back. AND you're considering taking her to court. Let her know what's what.

OR you could sell your debt to a debt collector for a couple hundred bucks, tell her you're considering that as well.

THAT would only take about thirty minutes, tops, at a coffee shop.
 

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She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Insufficient data.
How much is $3500 worth to you? How much would your time cost, per hour to hang with her to get it back.
How do you know she's not trying to hang with you to AVOID paying it back?
I'd grab your balls (well, I wouldn't grab YOUR balls lol) and have an honest sit down with her. Explain you're just not interested in being friends. And it really bothers you she can't pay you back. AND you're considering taking her to court. Let her know what's what.
OR you could sell your debt to a debt collector for a couple hundred bucks, tell her you're considering that as well.
THAT would only take about thirty minutes, tops, at a coffee shop.
Although I realize that AWALT, the frame that I've held consistently since the beginning of the relationship 3 years ago was that we each pay our fair share. She's always understood she has to pay her rent/food etc and I wouldn't buy her drinks or free dinners. You can never know for sure what someone's future behaviour will be but she's always expressed her desire to pay off what she owes me.

Thanks for the advice everyone. She's still been trying pretty frantically to get me to respond to her or hang out with her. I can't know for sure but she's pretty much either cleared her schedule to get any opportunity to hang out with me or has absolutely no life outside of work.
She sent me a message today saying she's going to take $2000 of her student loan and pay me that on the 13th then will continue to make the payments.

As per the agreement she has til April 1st to pay it all off, and anything left after that will accrue interest at a 45% per annum.
 
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