"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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Ex just starting to see another guy, and likes him (time sensitive)

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So If you read some of my previous posts you may know a bit about my situation.
Thing is she really liked me at first (were together for about 5 months and almost instantly clicked). She always said she loved me and so on and was the one who pushed to actually be my girlfriend. However, later on she started to complain about my drinking habits, lazyness etc (I was not at my best during that time, lots of pressure of many sorts, including intensive law studying).

I told her a bunch of times I was gonna stop drinking (at least till I got back to normal and stopped it affecting my life in general - (because it was, and also was not careful enough about my appearance; got a big belly etc. although I consider myself good looking and above average and she too bbut I just wasn't the person I could be). I was really going to do it but needed to find the right time. But she did not believe it and I kept telling her youll see... (She had told me if I continued that way one day she'll leave me).

Well when I finally started to quit drinking in late november and hitting the gym at last the most dreadful thing happened. I went to her bday and got drunk and embarrassed her in front of her friends. The next day was my sis's wedding and she was supposed to go with me and not only she did'nt go, but restricted me on facebook. Didn't reply to me in like 4 days where i kept calling and messaging wanting to know wtf. Then she finally added me again. That was early december. I haven't seen her since then.

After that, after a few conversations she said If I went sober one day and was serious about changing she would consider coming back. Once she even told me call me tomorrow when your sober (I had called somewhat drunk- yes the breakage didn't help my problem at all, in fact it worsened it...I started drinking a lot again and sopped hitting the gym. Well I wrongly thought I shouldn't make it so easy on her since I was also mad at her for the way she dumped me and because she didn't go to the wedding.

This is when it gets really ugly: She had been showing signs of interest until last week, even till friday afternoon when she even agree to go to the beach with me and maybe stay over at a friends. She still had a bit of faith in me. (She always said it's a waste I'm so intelligent and good looking but so autodestructive at the same time). Well that same day, I got into her Facebook. (She left her password sored on my PC by chance so I can check it whenever I want And since we broke up I kind of have been obsessing over what she does and says (I know, a bit unethical and unwise but I just couldn't help it). Until that day she was still somewhat interested in giving it another shot (last Friday afternoon). It should be noted that this was our FIRST breakup... Normally you get at least another chance I think.

However that day I saw her messages, and a guy who she barely knew and had not spoken to in like a year messaged her, they chatted for a bit and he proposed doing something later. I didn't worry too much because I thought this must be another loser that wants to tallk to her, hang with her or whatever (She has tons of those and normally she does't take them seriously. Really it was mindblowing the amount of idiots wantig to get with her. But somehow this dude played it cool and managed to take her out that night. The next day I called her and she gave me an excuse for not calling me when she woke up as we had arranged. She said she got up early to go to the beach, got into her car (she was supposed to pick me up after the call) and found out she forgot her cell phone so she just headed alone to the beach. I don't know how true this was, maybe she was just hungover or thinking about the guy she went out with the night before or whatever. Maybe I put too much pressure on her talking about staying at a frind's house for the weekend and even implying something about sex. Maybe she was feeling guilty or something about going out with that guy or didn't know how to tell me or wanted to tell me or lie.

But she wasn't with the guy I know that for a fact, since, during the incommunication time I logged in again to her FB and the guy started messaging and said: "Hey, how was your day at the beach". I had the suspiscion that they had gone out so I replied, pretending I was her, "how was last night?". And this is when it really got gloomy for me. He replied "Yesterday I had a great time with you, I couldn't even sleep afterwards with a big smile on my face". I then erased the question so she wouldn't notice, so it looked like he was just talking for his own sake and hoping he would come across as needy or too interested and not a challenge or something like that. Well after that they kept messaging normally so I thought I still had a chance. But it seems that this took exactly the opposite effect!!! Just yesterday she sent her a message saying she just saw that part of the conversation and that seemed to draw her interest even higher (maybe cause she doesn´t trust men too much or because she was hoping that he had thought that). After that she's been taling to him a lot, flirting and everything, talking about wanting to meet again etc. The guy is a writer and she is into "smart" guys and may think this guy is everything she wants (after being with a couple troglodites before me).

So the bottom line is, She seems very infatuated and him too. She even sent a message to a friend of hers today sayg how happy she is things are looking so good now she'd call her to tell her everything, and how things are going great and so on.

So now I think I'm pretty farked up and don't know what to do. She has only seen him once (Max twice) and I'm pretty sure they have at least kissed fooled around. He sends her a "HOT "(hardcore)" kiss" (she uses that word a lot) to which she replies playfully and acknowledging. He even sent a crap song that she instantly posted on her wall (and made it invisible to me). The smartass even sends her witty poetry and phylosophical lines and quotes and stuff for god's sake.
For what I have seen she's totally into him and he as well. I stupidlly sent idiotic messages during the weekend and called her several times and then sent her a message saying why dont you answer, damn your farking strange. (By the way I was sober again and hitting the gym and ready to make things the right way this time but now this SOB appears and everything goes to shiat again...... Kind of paradoxical, ironical and gruesome how things are turning up for me.

All this has happened in less than 5 days!!!! I think I'm farkedup now! What can I do? Is there still hope? She's only seen him once or twice but will definetely see him this weekend. I'd like to at least try firing a last bullet before she's gone forever, that wayat least I tried. Every second that passes harms my possibilities more. If she gets to be his girlfriend I'll never want to have anything to do with her again. So maybe this is the time to take action, and not play or hard to get or disappear (won't work at this point). If I do nothing this is gonna progress into a relationship for sure as I see it.

So please guys give me some advice, I'm afraid to call her because chances are she won't answer. Should I message her? Should I wait for her outside her house at the time when I know she comes back like a stalker (may be the only way to see her and talk to her). Or should I just surrender and accept the battle is lost??

She just posted on her wall "what you're seeking is seeking you" and he gave it a "like" (of course I'm banned to see that comment).

The more time passes the worse things are getting. This might be my last chance and if I'm defeated at least I want to know I tried in the end. Thank you for reading this long post, which could be the last one related to this girl.

Seriously confused about what to do. Please give me some ammo, insight or advice and not only read. I think this guy is full of sh1t and well, maybe my ex too. I'm pretty sure it's my last chance if I ever had one.....no time to wait? I haven't tried to contact her since sunday (3 days ago with no reply). What to do I'm about to lose her for good, no PUA techniques to help me in these scenario as I see it!!!
 

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Just want to point out that I'm not the kind of guy who suffers from "one-itis". I learned not to do that many years ago. But I don't know what happened here...maybe it is because last year I broke my leg and was handicapped and alone for almost a year and still limp a bit... and also because of the way things ended that I'm so depressed and my confidence is very very low...Maybe it's the fear of not being able to find a high quality woman. I'm not sure. I didn't even want to be this girl's bf at first, she pushed it...I just went on with it for social proof and to improve my confidence and not be lonely during a dark period...But look the hole in which I am now....In fact, I used to like being single and had no problem with that and didnt need a gf to feel worthy. But now I'm feeling like sht and am losing my brain over this.
 

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Dude, I went through this before.. you will not get her back now. Trust me, the reason behind me saying that is that she has been thinking about jumping ship for a while and now the right guy has come along. She has already jumped ship and will now pursue a relationship with this guy. She will soon be f-ing him if not already. Therefore you must throw the towel in on this or you are going to really be in bad mental shape. Don't "put it all on the line" and try to do romantic gestures or even worse gestures to show "you are serious about getting back together"... you are hurt but you must go to the gym, and you gotta keep your studies going
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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Well thanks webs

Your reply was really helpful lol. As to 3 countries and spunky...Thank you very much. So I should just do nothing about her and everything about me and let that punk steal her from me? is that what youre saying? It makes sense but really you see it is all lost?
Thanks again.
 

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Websterdic said:
this is really painful to read.
I meant it is....but you really didn' help that much...we all know it sucks!
 

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3 Countries...I think you are right. Thanks a lot.
 

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3 Countries...I think you are right. Thanks a lot.
One more thing...should I block her on FB? she's been a real ***** to me and actually burning bridges is not an issue cause allher friends are old tarts....and I don't want nothing to do with them...
 

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3 Countries...I think you are right. Thanks a lot.

One more thing...should I block her on FB? she's been a real biach to me and actually burning bridges is not an issue cause allher friends are old tarts....and I don't want nothing to do with them...
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Mate, you need to wake up and see the real problem, the problem in your life is not the girl, it's YOU! Right now you need to cut contact, move on and start improving your life. Stop drinking, get hobbies, go to the gym again and concentrate on your studies.

If you want to have a chance with this girl again that's the only way she will notice you again, my advice though is to forget her and move on.
 

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THIS IS OVER.


...she's been a real biach to me and actually burning bridges is not an issue cause allher friends are old tarts....and I don't want nothing to do with them...
^ All of that sh1t is irrelevant.



I will be honest, if you knowingly had a drinking a problem and if the stress with intensive law studiying was so bad, you should not have gone into the relationship and she did the right thing - you were lucky that she backed off and came back when you had sorted yourself out, but then one night the drink got the better of you and you made a fool of yourself. This sealed your access to her pu$$y for good.

...should I just surrender and accept the battle is lost??
Yup.


One more thing...should I block her on FB?
Yes you should! - You should be cutting off every connection you have with her.

If you already know her password, log in to her account, change the password to some random letter you will never remember. Log off (she can always reset her password by email) - do it now!


Trying to see what it going on with her just isn't worth it. You will feel worse for it like this:

He replied "Yesterday I had a great time with you, I couldn't even sleep afterwards with a big smile on my face"
Imagine what that will change to in a couple of weeks!

You consider yourself to be good looking - I'm jealous. Most of us on this forum don't have this blessing and work hard to be desirable. Imagine how awesome it WILL be when you change your body as well.

The only time you are to contact her is, to send photo of you on the beach with a ripped body and a HB8-10 under your arm sticking two fingers up at the camera.

This will happen more quickly than you are thinking right now. I have been through it and honestly now how it feels. Hitting the gym and changing your lifestyle is the way forward. I have never gone back and cannot see me every doing so.

When the momentum gets rolling, the change of lifestyle becomes a habit. I very rarely drink now as I'm get to obsessed thinking it will affect my training.

It is going to be hard, but it also gets easier then becomes an enjoyable uplifting way of life. Just keep at it, I promise you!

Just take a look at this post by me. I was a hairy monster with beer belly, look how much you will change in just a few months IF you stick at it.

I love not drinking - my confidence is sky high as I have got used to going out at night soba, I have the freedom of driving on a night out, I save a huge sum of money, my body is in shape and it feels amazing.


This is where I came from, and was truly my turning point: http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=174038 if you reed through the whole thread you will see how it goes through how I caught her cheating just a days after posting the thread, sink in the advice I was given. I was such a passive weak man back then.

Take the advice from other members on here, read through the DJ bible and DJ tips section. It does work!

Don't just sit there and do nothing but read the bible, go out and action it. Do it now... go on with you :woo:
 
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When you overthink that much about a girl, you know something is wrong in your head (no offense). Empty your mind, let it go, chill... take care of your life and mental health... we men are suposed to be simple... just move on... being indifferent and not caring feels good (and new chicks dig it )
 

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She's your ex, and now you want to ****block another guy?

That's weak bro.

Bring your game up and find new women.

Do you enjoy torturing yourself? Because that's exactly what you are doing here.

Why does her interaction with this new guy have to reflect on you? It doesn't. Quit thinking of yourself as the center of the universe. You aren't. Get over it and get over yourself.
 

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Put your f**king life in order and stop worrying about women.

You had the girl for 5 months, and your life was still sh*t. So obviously having her will not fix anything for you.

Time to put on your big-boy pants and act like a man. Grow up, get your head out of the clouds, and fix your freakin life.

That's all the advice I have for you. Peace.
 

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Thanks to everyone who took the time to read my post and give me their advice. It is most helpful and is probably in most cases what I would tell someone in my situation.
But you know, sometimes it's not a good idea to be your own doctor, lawyer, shrink or whatever so I really appreciate it.
I agree with all of you. Still hurts but I hope it passes soon. I've never had these kind of biatch problems. Just once many years ago in a galaxy far away and I thought I had learned and was unbreakable and biatch proof. Don't know what happened to me here. If anyone wants to add something it's welcome of course.

I'll be posting more often now so I guess I'll see you around guys.
 

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Thanks a lot Duracell for reading my long post and then replying with such a complete and encouraging advice and sharing your story/links...I'll check that out in a moment. most appreciated.

Anyway, I've lost battles before so I guess it shouldn't be a biggie but I made it huge. Actually I was also looking while with her but kept her cause it gave me somewhat of a comfort zone. I was NOT really in love. However she did it first and won.

I'm puzzled how can she fall for a guy that quick...Well I suppose he's a novelty and triggers her exciting emotions while I'm history so I can't compete with that. He's mystery while she knows pretty much all about me (or so she thinks)- I know may be irrelevant comment.

I should have never agreed to be her boyfriend and get exclusive to start off...As I said she's tha one that pushed it (I knew it was a bad idea and could only bring problems) and should have keep it casual. But thats history now, another lesson learned, more mistakes I hope I never repeat.

BTW- How will I send her my ribbed pics with HB9 (and younger than her) if i cut her on FB? Won't it seem that I'm affected by her if I do that? I mean I could not talk to her or restrict her but all the way to unfriend her?

Well at least I got some things out of that relationship, she brought me a bike that I needed from another country that they don't sell here (I also do BMX and surfing) and well, got to f!ck her a lot of times and in every possible way until it simply got boring to me. I'm gonna start surfing again cause it's summer here!, That should be a very good medicine, and of course hit the gym too. (no, I'm not from Aus).

Should I send any last message or something just to end it somehow more on my terms or to state something and not appear weak since my last messages were indeed weak? Or just plainly never contact her again. Any Ideas what my last message should be if that's an option?

Thanks again,

Cheers mate!
 

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Htienvu said:
Mate, you need to wake up and see the real problem, the problem in your life is not the girl, it's YOU! Right now you need to cut contact, move on and start improving your life. Stop drinking, get hobbies, go to the gym again and concentrate on your studies.

If you want to have a chance with this girl again that's the only way she will notice you again, my advice though is to forget her and move on.


Yep, I believe you're right, thanks.
 

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4ad said:
BTW- How will I send her my ribbed pics with HB9 (and younger than her) if i cut her on FB? Won't it seem that I'm affected by her if I do that? I mean I could not talk to her or restrict her but all the way to unfriend her?
Do you seriously care? It's facebook. Delete her, keep her, who cares? This has no long term impact on your life whatsoever.

Should I send any last message or something just to end it somehow more on my terms or to state something and not appear weak since my last messages were indeed weak? Or just plainly never contact her again. Any Ideas what my last message should be if that's an option?
Sending a last message accomplishes nothing. It won't make her more attracted to you. It won't change her feelings. It won't make you more of a man.

Your only path is to move forward as a man. That's it.

Let go of this petty crap and fix your life. That's the big thing. Fixing your life. Not Facebook, not a "last message". You're asking about petty sh*t like this when you should be looking for the local gym. Or learning hobbies. Or doing ANYTHING positive.
 

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