"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Baruch

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I am just trying to understand the female mind. Are they completely retarded? Are the all like that? Why do they do what they do?....I just don't get them. Maybe men in general are not supposed to get women, and just let them do what they do completely ignoring it and doing our own thing while still having them.

So anyways, I haven't been on this site for a while, last time I think I made a thread was when I was whining about my gf leaving me and moving out. Then going through a whole bunch of unnecessary drama, mostly due to my inexperience in a relationships and break ups.

She was an HB8, good looks, smarts, personality and unbelievably wealthy. After she broke with me, I managed to beat living crap out of her friend in a club, call he really drunk after clubs, argue constantly on the phone while being drunk and other unnecessary AFC mistakes like talking to our mutual friend about how much I loved her. After all that, of course we cut all contact and it was to the point that I thought she will get a restraining order on me if I didn't stop calling and harrasing her drunk. I am not proud of what I did, I was completely out of line by calling her and getting violent with her friend. I am glad that I learned from this mistakes, so I will not be the crazy bf/ex-bf next time. Anyways, what I am trying to get here too...

About a little over a month ago my roommate and I who also knows her bumped into her in a club after a little over a year we broke up. She was tippy toeing around me, buying me drinks, running and getting me cigarettes when I asked her and even asking my roommate if I left when I went to the bathroom. After that, she been trying to get a hold of my roomate tellin him she got some gf's and we should all hangout...Then started talkin to me on MSN. Having just conversations with ****s and giggles like nothing ever happened.

Then she tells me how her ex bf after me acted not to long ago and said he was crazier then I was, by doing some other **** close to what I did, but not even...I was kidding around and said sounds like I was the crazier one cause I actually beat up her friend up unlike the former. Her response shocked me, she said out of no where " I dunno, at least you have a great sense of humor...you are much cooler then him and as far as beating up my friend, you were really really drunk...."

So after all the **** that I've done as the crazy ex-bf, she compliments me, and justifies sort of the things I've done. Even though I was clearly in the wrong. Low self esteem? Co dependency? She wants me back? Are all women more or less like that?

Go figure women....Thats all folks.
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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well the reason she is an ex is because she dumped you, it sounds like. Why did that happen? It sounds like you could conceivably take her back, altho it's hard to know if that's a good idea without knowing why you broke up initially.
 

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Obsidian said:
well the reason she is an ex is because she dumped you, it sounds like. Why did that happen? It sounds like you could conceivably take her back, altho it's hard to know if that's a good idea without knowing why you broke up initially.
We initially broke up because I was the jealous type. Especially, after I cheated on her and I stopped trusting her.
 

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Its simple, she misses the attention and drama. The fact that she can still get your undivided attention when ever she wants is an ego boaster.

Stop playing her games and cut off all contact for good. The fact that you are playing her games and wondering what is up with her tells me that you are not over her and she knows it.
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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We initially broke up because I was the jealous type. Especially, after I cheated on her and I stopped trusting her.
rofl

Feel free to take her back if you want. I bet you could manage it with her if you've improved.
 

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DJDamage said:
Its simple, she misses the attention and drama. The fact that she can still get your undivided attention when ever she wants is an ego boaster.

Stop playing her games and cut off all contact for good. The fact that you are playing her games and wondering what is up with her tells me that you are not over her and she knows it.
Good point. Thanks for pointing that out for me.
 

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Look, I've seen this a million times. If you get back together, you will get drunk one night and tell her in the heat of argument that you cheated on her. She will break up and get back together with you several more times, while becoming super possessive herself (for good reason). Meanwhile, she sleeps with all your friends for revenge.

Eventually, you have a kid, and she goes "oh crap, I guess I'd better stop messing around with this drunken jerk and find myself an AFC to raise this kid." She dumps you for good, and gets a profile on plentyoffish.com.

Yep, if that sounds good to you, do it.
 

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Phyzzle said:
Look, I've seen this a million times. If you get back together, you will get drunk one night and tell her in the heat of argument that you cheated on her. She will break up and get back together with you several more times, while becoming super possessive herself (for good reason). Meanwhile, she sleeps with all your friends for revenge.

Eventually, you have a kid, and she goes "oh crap, I guess I'd better stop messing around with this drunken jerk and find myself an AFC to raise this kid." She dumps you for good, and gets a profile on plentyoffish.com.

Yep, if that sounds good to you, do it.
haha. Best reply ever.
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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