"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Ex back in her life - thinking of ending it

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WTF???

It's not a trust issue. It's a respect issue.

^^^this. Plus If she loved the dog so much she should have fought him for it. Did she try to fight him to get the dog back at all? I fought my ex in court for my dog, and I beat her.. So unless your ex put up a fight for this dog she must not have loved it all that much.. That's where I would stand with her on this..

Anytime I ever gave a woman a blessing to do anything involving an ex, something always happened where I regretted it. 100% of the time. It just never goes well.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Do what you want, it's your life. For what it's worth, I don't think she did anything wrong at all.
I don't think she did anything "wrong", and I even told her the same. Im just tired of exes surfacing in my relationships. Like logical lefty said, it's always caused some sort of problem eventually.
 

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^^^this. Plus If she loved the dog so much she should have fought him for it. Did she try to fight him to get the dog back at all? I fought my ex in court for my dog, and I beat her.. So unless your ex put up a fight for this dog she must not have loved it all that much.. That's where I would stand with her on this..

Anytime I ever gave a woman a blessing to do anything involving an ex, something always happened where I regretted it. 100% of the time. It just never goes well.
That's another issue - she just told me last night that she gave the dog to him after a year of separation because she realized the dog needed him more. Lol
 

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I don't think she did anything "wrong", and I even told her the same. Im just tired of exes surfacing in my relationships. Like logical lefty said, it's always caused some sort of problem eventually.
I don't have a lot of experience, but to be honest it seems impossible to find some woman that has not some connection with an ex. I just read Desdinova's high score theory and it's mind blowing.
That's another issue - she just told me last night that she gave the dog to him after a year of separation because she realized the dog needed him more. Lol
Then it really seems like it was an excuse, but for some reason she changed her mind.
 

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Do what you want, it's your life. For what it's worth, I don't think she did anything wrong at all.
I'm with Bible on this. It seems your gf fully understood the ramifications of her actions and cancelled the meet. Point made. Let it go! A nice power f.ucking is in order, maybe a.nal.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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I don't have a lot of experience, but to be honest it seems impossible to find some woman that has not some connection with an ex. I just read Desdinova's high score theory and it's mind blowing.

Then it really seems like it was an excuse, but for some reason she changed her mind.
The ex is higher up on her high score list, and the dog was a great excuse to see him again.
 

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Update - dumped her today.

I felt bad over the holidays when I was visiting. So I suggested we go visit the dog. She declined multiple times. I asked why. She said because she doesn't want to confuse her dog.

Yesterday she calls and says he sent her pics of the dog looking dirty and disheveled and said he really needs her to please come groom the dog so he can bathe her. So she thinks it will be just this one time.

I asked why she wants to see her now and not when I was there and open to it. She says because she didn't think I would want to meet his family since he's living with his parents. And because she didn't want me to see the dog without being groomed.

So I said stop being gullible and tell him to be a grown man and find a way to take care of his dog or go get your neglected dog back since you're the legal owner. Also said she kinda lied to me.
She swears it would be just once and she's entitled to change her mind.

So I said, so am I. We're done. Not giving up options for someone who feels entitled to continually change her mind about these things.
 

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yeah, I'd see a red flag if she didn't want you to see him. It wouldn't have been an all clear if she HAD let you meet the ex. I've met current Boyfriends and slept with her again after some little argument, but this is worse in my eyes. SHe wanted to see the ex WITHOUT you so the sex "just happened"
 

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Remember, the dog is not the issue here. The dog is just a vehicle for communication between her and her ex. Let us proceed to learn...

So I suggested we go visit the dog.
That's like saying, "I don't mind if you visit with your ex and fancy the thoughts of having his d1ck inside of you"

he really needs her to please come groom the dog so he can bathe her. So she thinks it will be just this one time.
You gave her permission to visit her bf, and now you've changed your mind.

Not giving up options for someone who feels entitled to continually change her mind about these things.
She changed her mind because you failed to put your foot down and enforce where you stand on this issue. Instead, you "felt bad" and not only encouraged her, but pushed her to have it her way by telling her to go "visit the dog".

Her ex who is at the top of her high score list didn't get there by letting her visit other guys she fvcked.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Remember, the dog is not the issue here. The dog is just a vehicle for communication between her and her ex. Let us proceed to learn...


That's like saying, "I don't mind if you visit with your ex and fancy the thoughts of having his d1ck inside of you"



You gave her permission to visit her bf, and now you've changed your mind.



She changed her mind because you failed to put your foot down and enforce where you stand on this issue. Instead, you "felt bad" and not only encouraged her, but pushed her to have it her way by telling her to go "visit the dog".

Her ex who is at the top of her high score list didn't get there by letting her visit other guys she fvcked.
Des...what is the thin line between not caring if she saw her ex which spikes her interest level bc he doesn't see a threat versus putting your foot down?

I'm thinking in a Hank Moody kind of way where his aloofness had women falling more for him
 

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I have no clue who the fvck Hank Moody is.

It really depends on what your mindset is when it comes to situations like this:

Jealousy: You're afraid she's going to fvck him, so you give her an ultimatum to hopefully stop her from fvcking him.
Disrespect: She's in an exclusive relationship with you. Seeing an ex doesn't fit the criteria of being in a relationship.

When you're jealous, you lack confidence. When you're disrespected, you retain your confidence. The bottom line is women respect confident men.
 

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The OP shouldn't have brought the issue back up again because he "felt bad". He made a decision and should have stuck to it and concerned himself with something else.
 

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The only way I have found that they will interpret it in a way favorable to you is when it is abundantly clear that they are replaceable. Usually they need a very clear visual reminder of who their replacement will be
That's an interesting viewpoint which I've never thought about before. I think confidence is still the bottom line here. A confident man will automatically have replacement options regardless of what his relationship status is. I swear that women can smell the estrogen of other women who are interested in their man.
 

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Dear God, this all sounded like a whole bunch of useless drama. Not even 6 months worth of relationship? I would have been done with her as soon as she mentioned the ex going through a divorce and her going over to to see the dog.

Sorry, not gonna be able to do it.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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if the dog was this important to her she would have been seeing it consistently from the very split.

Her ex is now available and now calling her to come see the dog? gtfoh..

if she goes you know what to do
 
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