"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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MedDude

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So the ex and I have have been broken up for a few months. We talk a little on messenger and catch up. It was nice, we had been finds before for a long time so it was cool to know friendship is still there. So she heard a friend of hers and I had been hanging out. Not long after this she sends me a flirty text along with a flirty picture. She isthen veryreceptive tohanging outagain andvery accommodatingabout scheduling atime to meet. We then hang out again and she is nice but obviously keeping things distant and friends zoneish.

I'm confused by her behavior. I still have feelings for her and am wondering if it would be a good idea to tell her how I feel and that I would like to give it another try.

Any advice?
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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MedDude said:
I'm confused by her behavior. I still have feelings for her and am wondering if it would be a good idea to tell her how I feel and that I would like to give it another try.

Any advice?
If you want to quit being confused by her behavior, cut all contact with her.
 

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What's the point in seeing if she still has her hooks in? Does that mean she's still interested?
 

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MedDude said:
So the ex and I have have been broken up for a few months.
I'm assuming that this is the same EX that dumped you
- the one that was going to pursue her career after summer?
- the one that slowly had been putting up a wall between you two before dumping you?
- the one that dangled the carrot of a "maybe" future reconciliation?

I'm guessing that she distanced herself from you and started looking for reasons to fight during this time. One of the key reasons for chicks doing this is when another guy has caught their eye and they want to pursue him instead of you. So... they start looking for 10,001 bull$hit reasons to get rid of you. Then they do.

MedDude said:
So she heard a friend of hers and I had been hanging out. Not long after this she sends me a flirty text along with a flirty picture.
Yeah, because things with the new guy or her most recent bout of "singlehood" hasn't been working out for her. Her friend is now a threat to her plan B (i.e. getting back together with you)

MedDude said:
She is then very receptive to hanging out again and very accommodating about scheduling a time to meet.
You fall for her ruse...

MedDude said:
We then hang out again and she is nice but obviously keeping things distant and friends zoneish.
And she has you back on the hook again, effectively eliminating the budding relationship between her friend and you.

MedDude said:
I'm confused by her behavior.
I've explained all above. i.e. She doesn't want you, but she doesn't want her friend to have you either.

MedDude said:
I still have feelings for her and am wondering if it would be a good idea to tell her how I feel and that I would like to give it another try.
Don't be stupid. Kill your feelings for her. NO it is NOT a good idea to tell her how you feel. She already knows how you feel by your actions. She's just keeping you on her attention ho string and playing you for a fool.

MedDude said:
Any advice?
1. Keep things "friendly" with her if possible and mentally "NEXT" her.
2. Stop pursuing her. Stop trying to meet up with her. Be evasive.
3. Shut the F up talking about any of your "feelings" to her or anyone else.
4. Pursue her friend heavily.
5. Pursue other girls
6. Keep your activities quiet and enjoy your life

Isn't she leaving to "pursue her career" at the end of summer?
Where is that going to leave you?

She's told you already by her actions what you mean to her... nothing.

I'm not trying to be harsh here. All the above is the truth the way I see it.

She's an EX.... Think of the letter X and draw that through your relationship. Don't let her fvck with your head any further.
 

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This is a different ex than the one you are talking about. I would imagine the rules you're laing or would be the same though.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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I don't call them "rules" but personal values of how I lived my life when I was single.
I took an ex back once when I was single, wasted 5 months of my life that I will never get back. Every one of my buddies that ever took a chick back (that dumped them) also lived to regret it.

The "rules" if you want to call them that are simple:

- If she dumps you, she's done. If you take her back again, it's a matter of time before she does the "rinse and repeat" on your a$$
- If you dump her, be honest with yourself about the "why"... before you try again.

In both cases the chances of it working out are very slim.

Edited for clarity
 

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I like Ruleit's advice, OP. Don't believe for a second that she suddenly finds you attractive again. She's using you for an ego boost and to allow her rationalisation hamster time to kick back and tell her everything's ok, that she made the right decision because you're taking it so well.
If she genuinely does regret dumping you and is angling towards reconciliation, you make her jump through 1000 hoops to prove herself worthy.
 

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So I take a dive and tell her I want to get back together. I'm told in return she would like that too, just not right now because she had to much going on and can't deal with it mentally.

Translation?
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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MedDude said:
So I take a dive and tell her I want to get back together. I'm told in return she would like that too, just not right now because she had to much going on and can't deal with it mentally.

Translation?
Like I told you earlier:

"There's another guy or two I'm interested in. I'm going to see where that goes. If it doesn't work out I'm going to need you to comfort me until an even better option becomes available.

In the meantime you better stay single and available as my fallback option. I don't want you hooking up with my friend while I'm pursuing my options."
 

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So, it appears I'm a novice at this but I want to learn. What would be a good way to handle this situation?
 

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MedDude said:
So, it appears I'm a novice at this but I want to learn. What would be a good way to handle this situation?
See post #2 (Cut contact)
 

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Dear Med Dude,
You would go back only to quickly find out why you Guys broke up in the first place!
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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in my opinion, the reason people breakup is a huge factor in whether it could work again. if both people understand the reason and are committed to not making the same mistakes and there is love and attraction there, then things can work and be better a second time because you both learned to appreciate each other more.

generally this is just unlikely because one person can't admit their own mistakes or is just unable to change. and many times there is something blocking one person from having faith because too much bad has happened.

I don't know why you two broke up and what has been said about it between the two of you. it's very likely that she's just jealous that you could be moving on to something better and she's not. the only way to know is to try. you just gotta play it cool and go at her pace. keeping your options open will help you not get frustrated and looking too eager.

it's a real crap situation to be in and the odds are sucke stacked against you. so you have to be honest with yourself and know if she's really not worth it anyway. if she's just a low quality woman then don't bother, really.
 

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most importantly, do not tell her your feelings. you'll look pathetic, trust me. this is where men screw up.
 

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Re-read what Scaramouche wrote- seriously; that is why it's better to move on 99.999999% of the time. I've been there like many, I'm sure.
 
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