PrettyBoyAJ
Master Don Juan
She obviously wanted to break up with you too if she did not respond.
She says the movie looks dumb; you suddenly agree. She tests you with a little attitude; you apologize for nothing.
You think you're being easy to get along with. She reads something else entirely: a man with no edges. Nothing to hold on to. No friction, no tension, no reason to wonder what he really thinks.
The "22 Rules" taught me to push back — playfully, calmly, without needing her approval. Strange things happened after that.
You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.
Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.
She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.
Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.
Well, unfortunately I broke down & texted her : "I apologize for being harsh, would like to talk with you, would you?"Johnnyventana said:Dude. You sent the letter. Now you have to live with it. If you contact her now, she knows you were bluffing. She knows she owns you.
Moreover, if you contact her now, you are in essence, agreeing to her relationship terms. That is, she didn't change a thing, yet you came crawling back. Thus, you are now her beeatch.
Wait it out. If she doesn't contact you, you can be guaranteed she was never going to change.
We all do it, but it is arrogant and magical thinking to think we can change anyone anyway.
The only thing you can change, is to change chicks. Find one without the coo coo-ness.
You're right, but it's impossible to turn my emotions off.. I suppose I have no other recourse now?PrettyBoyAJ said:Man up bro, You dumped her. Deal with it and move on. You think you would have been more prepared then her. Seems like she was well prepared.
You broke up with her. Then you apologized for breaking up with her. I mean, what other recourse could there be? It just sounds like she isn't interested in any of it.Scorpio6913 said:You're right, but it's impossible to turn my emotions off.. I suppose I have no other recourse now?
You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.
I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.
Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.
These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.
It is sad & you are right, but when I sent the original email, I was drunk & pissed off at the time. I know that is no excuse. It's just the truth & I would like to find a way to at least re-establish contact & then try to establish better communication so I wouldn't act so immaturely again.Iceberg said:You broke up with her. Then you apologized for breaking up with her. I mean, what other recourse could there be? It just sounds like she isn't interested in any of it.
Besides, it wasn't even a real break up. You were just trying to get her attention.
The whole thing is sad.
Wait, wait. Are you letting the girl lead? Never do that.Scorpio6913 said:Well, unfortunately I broke down & texted her : "I apologize for being harsh, would like to talk with you, would you?"
Agreed...Iceberg said:The whole thing is sad.
Why do you need to establish better communication?Scorpio6913 said:It is sad & you are right, but when I sent the original email, I was drunk & pissed off at the time. I know that is no excuse. It's just the truth & I would like to find a way to at least re-establish contact & then try to establish better communication so I wouldn't act so immaturely again.
Thanks for that Ice, I agree, that is a fair assessment, I would just change your one sentence to "Nothing I've had in a long while", as I've had much better in my life past.Iceberg said:Why do you need to establish better communication?
In your other thread about her, you said that you've dated 5 month, she spends hours of free time playing video games, and that there hasn't been a lot of sex between you two.
Let's break this down in slow motion.
1. Dated for 5 months
-Who gives a crap? I've dated plenty of girls for 4 or 5 months. It's not that heartbreaking to lose some 5-month fling
2. Spends hours playing computer games
-Spending hours playing tennis, or guitar, or painting, or jogging...that'd be cool. F**kin computer games? You're worried about losing that?
3. Not a lot of sex happening
-I wouldn't tolerate that in month 1 let alone month 5.
Just using context clues about you and the woman you find yourself "dating", I'm going to make an assumption about your situation here:
You're lonely, you don't have a lot of potential women in your life, and you're hanging onto this pathetic woman as a security blanket. Because the occasional attention and sex that she gives you is better than the NOTHING you had before her.
I know I know....she's a nice girl, blah blah blah. Well I'm sure she'd be a great neighbor or even a nice friend. But she sounds like garbage as a girlfriend. So the only possible reasons for you wanting her back are the reasons I listed above.
Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.
You've been "getting ready" for two years.
She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.
Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.
Hey, I hear you man, thanks for the re-inforcement!The_411 said:Rule #1 Never break up over e-mail
Why? It screams attention seeking beahvior.
In the future either end it face to face or just stop communicating period.
Even though you did go the e-mail route you really DLV'd yourself by sending an apology text.
Rule #2 never apologize unless you really f'ed up. Even then you should only have 2 apologies to use in any relationship. Think of them like timeouts. You use more than two it's a technical foul and that technical foul is your manhood being snatched from you.
Why apologize she was acting like a *****. We're men and we get angry and we have a right to do so. By apologzing you basically said, "Hi I'm a lil ***** you can walk all over me. I'll get mad but I'm not really mad because I don't want you to me mad at me etc. :kick:
This is an important lession for your future relationships
Rule #3 Do not yield, be a rock, yielding indicates weakness. Don't get me wrong there are occasions where you need to play pacifier but you should manipulate those situations so that you are in control and making the decisions.
You are absolutely right Brother & what you said in my thread so far has been very helpful. You are well beyond your years man, thanks!PrettyBoyAJ said:Sh*t, It really doesn't matter thow you broke up with her. At least you did it. I don't care how you did it.
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
I totally understand you. Just trying to reconcile this somehow, wish I could in reality, but there seems to be no way.PrettyBoyAJ said:It's been over a week, Get over this.
Its all fine that you made a mistake. But one key factor of being a man is that when we make a mistake we move on from it. We don't dwell on it.
A pet peeve of mine: I is the subject, me is the object. This is some kind of meme going on these days, that saying "I" as an object would be classier. Rampant behavior among women who sign up for The Bachelor. But it isn't classier.Scorpio6913 said:I was going to send you a email explaining what my concerns were about the relationship between you & I