PrettyBoyAJ
Master Don Juan
She obviously wanted to break up with you too if she did not respond.
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
Attraction runs on a clock.
She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.
The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."
One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.
Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.
Well, unfortunately I broke down & texted her : "I apologize for being harsh, would like to talk with you, would you?"Johnnyventana said:Dude. You sent the letter. Now you have to live with it. If you contact her now, she knows you were bluffing. She knows she owns you.
Moreover, if you contact her now, you are in essence, agreeing to her relationship terms. That is, she didn't change a thing, yet you came crawling back. Thus, you are now her beeatch.
Wait it out. If she doesn't contact you, you can be guaranteed she was never going to change.
We all do it, but it is arrogant and magical thinking to think we can change anyone anyway.
The only thing you can change, is to change chicks. Find one without the coo coo-ness.
You're right, but it's impossible to turn my emotions off.. I suppose I have no other recourse now?PrettyBoyAJ said:Man up bro, You dumped her. Deal with it and move on. You think you would have been more prepared then her. Seems like she was well prepared.
You broke up with her. Then you apologized for breaking up with her. I mean, what other recourse could there be? It just sounds like she isn't interested in any of it.Scorpio6913 said:You're right, but it's impossible to turn my emotions off.. I suppose I have no other recourse now?
Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.
I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.
Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules. Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.
It is sad & you are right, but when I sent the original email, I was drunk & pissed off at the time. I know that is no excuse. It's just the truth & I would like to find a way to at least re-establish contact & then try to establish better communication so I wouldn't act so immaturely again.Iceberg said:You broke up with her. Then you apologized for breaking up with her. I mean, what other recourse could there be? It just sounds like she isn't interested in any of it.
Besides, it wasn't even a real break up. You were just trying to get her attention.
The whole thing is sad.
Wait, wait. Are you letting the girl lead? Never do that.Scorpio6913 said:Well, unfortunately I broke down & texted her : "I apologize for being harsh, would like to talk with you, would you?"
Agreed...Iceberg said:The whole thing is sad.
Why do you need to establish better communication?Scorpio6913 said:It is sad & you are right, but when I sent the original email, I was drunk & pissed off at the time. I know that is no excuse. It's just the truth & I would like to find a way to at least re-establish contact & then try to establish better communication so I wouldn't act so immaturely again.
Thanks for that Ice, I agree, that is a fair assessment, I would just change your one sentence to "Nothing I've had in a long while", as I've had much better in my life past.Iceberg said:Why do you need to establish better communication?
In your other thread about her, you said that you've dated 5 month, she spends hours of free time playing video games, and that there hasn't been a lot of sex between you two.
Let's break this down in slow motion.
1. Dated for 5 months
-Who gives a crap? I've dated plenty of girls for 4 or 5 months. It's not that heartbreaking to lose some 5-month fling
2. Spends hours playing computer games
-Spending hours playing tennis, or guitar, or painting, or jogging...that'd be cool. F**kin computer games? You're worried about losing that?
3. Not a lot of sex happening
-I wouldn't tolerate that in month 1 let alone month 5.
Just using context clues about you and the woman you find yourself "dating", I'm going to make an assumption about your situation here:
You're lonely, you don't have a lot of potential women in your life, and you're hanging onto this pathetic woman as a security blanket. Because the occasional attention and sex that she gives you is better than the NOTHING you had before her.
I know I know....she's a nice girl, blah blah blah. Well I'm sure she'd be a great neighbor or even a nice friend. But she sounds like garbage as a girlfriend. So the only possible reasons for you wanting her back are the reasons I listed above.
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
Hey, I hear you man, thanks for the re-inforcement!The_411 said:Rule #1 Never break up over e-mail
Why? It screams attention seeking beahvior.
In the future either end it face to face or just stop communicating period.
Even though you did go the e-mail route you really DLV'd yourself by sending an apology text.
Rule #2 never apologize unless you really f'ed up. Even then you should only have 2 apologies to use in any relationship. Think of them like timeouts. You use more than two it's a technical foul and that technical foul is your manhood being snatched from you.
Why apologize she was acting like a *****. We're men and we get angry and we have a right to do so. By apologzing you basically said, "Hi I'm a lil ***** you can walk all over me. I'll get mad but I'm not really mad because I don't want you to me mad at me etc. :kick:
This is an important lession for your future relationships
Rule #3 Do not yield, be a rock, yielding indicates weakness. Don't get me wrong there are occasions where you need to play pacifier but you should manipulate those situations so that you are in control and making the decisions.
You are absolutely right Brother & what you said in my thread so far has been very helpful. You are well beyond your years man, thanks!PrettyBoyAJ said:Sh*t, It really doesn't matter thow you broke up with her. At least you did it. I don't care how you did it.
She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.
Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.
The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.
I totally understand you. Just trying to reconcile this somehow, wish I could in reality, but there seems to be no way.PrettyBoyAJ said:It's been over a week, Get over this.
Its all fine that you made a mistake. But one key factor of being a man is that when we make a mistake we move on from it. We don't dwell on it.
A pet peeve of mine: I is the subject, me is the object. This is some kind of meme going on these days, that saying "I" as an object would be classier. Rampant behavior among women who sign up for The Bachelor. But it isn't classier.Scorpio6913 said:I was going to send you a email explaining what my concerns were about the relationship between you & I