"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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I'm in Canada and it's night-time, cold and wet outside and near freezing.
Excuses. Do it your garage. If you don’t have one there are covered spaces outdoors. If not put on waterproof gloves, and do them anyway.

You do realize that you’re making excuses for everything right?
 

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Excuses. Do it your garage. If you don’t have one there are covered spaces outdoors. If not put on waterproof gloves, and do them anyway.

You do realize that you’re making excuses for everything right?
I don't have waterproof gloves, I'll have to check it out on amazon to see if they have it. There is an "X" to everything else you've mentioned (ie no garage, no covered space outdoors). By the time they deliver the gloves it would probably be dry.

Yeah, I do realize I'm making excuses because they are all valid.
 

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I don't have waterproof gloves, I'll have to check it out on amazon to see if they have it. There is an "X" to everything else you've mentioned (ie no garage, no covered space outdoors). By the time they deliver the gloves it would probably be dry.

Yeah, I do realize I'm making excuses because they are all valid.
A problem that can be solved through action is not a problem. Amazon.ca - and I have a hard time believing that you live in Canada without a pair of ski type gloves, go to a thrift store tomorrow morning and get a pair for $5.

A man problem solves, try it, you'll like it. e.g. I want to do Olympic squats, but I don't have a garage or gym membership, so I move my furniture and do them. Simple. Or I could play video games and pick lint out of my navel and wax melodramatic about how nothing is going to work for me.
 

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A problem that can be solved through action is not a problem. Amazon.ca - and I have a hard time believing that you live in Canada without a pair of ski type gloves, go to a thrift store tomorrow morning and get a pair for $5.

A man problem solves, try it, you'll like it. e.g. I want to do Olympic squats, but I don't have a garage or gym membership, so I move my furniture and do them. Simple. Or I could play video games and pick lint out of my navel and wax melodramatic about how nothing is going to work for me.
Who said I don't have a gym membership?
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Who said I don't have a gym membership?
What good is it if you don’t use it? Furthermore, I was talking about myself, literally. Are you altered?
 

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What good is it if you don’t use it? Furthermore, I was talking about myself, literally. Are you altered?
In your post you put that as "eg", which implied you were talking about me as you said "a man problem solves", implying any man, not necessariliy you. Your post was not clear.
 

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That's right, all sorts of variation in escorts. Which is one reason some guys go the escort route.

Want a thick Latina with a large backside? Even if you're good at picking up a woman in person, there's no guarantee you'll pick up a woman fitting that exact description if you go out to a bar to look for a woman. By going the escort route, however, you can reserve yourself a thick Latina with a large backside.

If, for example, you want a blonde MILF, same idea applies.

Same applies for any variety of woman for that matter.
It does seem to have allot of variety of options on there, in contrast with incel - no options, etc.... or even a guy with very scarce options with women he does not like all that much but bends to like them because they like him, etc....

Have you gone on any spree where you've visted multiple escorts within a very short period of time? Or anything nasty like do anal with one escort and do bareback oral with another escort within the same day? When I had that problem in the past, it was on a spree where three escort locations were visited in the space of almost 24 hours, and I ditched one location and went to another one across town because it was $20 cheaper. Anyway the whole thing made me feel totally off, like some pagan/heathen and I couldn't handle that at all. Again, this was back in 2014 and something that has been buried as a memory for a very long time. Do you think you could handle visiting multiple women on the same day or short period of time or would you feel sick with that?

This is what chads probably do with girls on Tinder if they are lining up a bunch of first-date lays right?
 

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The term "e.g." is an abbreviation for the Latin phrase "exempli gratia," which translates to "for example." It's used to introduce one or more examples that illustrate a point being made. When you see "e.g." in a sentence, it signals that what follows is not an exhaustive list, but just a few instances to help clarify or exemplify the preceding statement.

And I followed it with "I" a personal pronoun, meaning as a result - "for example, I..."

In your post you put that as "eg", which implied you were talking about me as you said "a man problem solves", implying any man, not necessariliy you. Your post was not clear.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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I honestly feel like half of the new(er) posters that have joined this forum and been active on here have really made this entire place just a troll environment. I'm not going to name any in particular, nor do I have to lol.
Just beause you talk about escorts doesn't make it a troll discussion. You've been with escorts yourself in the past.
 

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I honestly feel like half of the new(er) posters that have joined this forum and been active on here have really made this entire place just a troll environment. I'm not going to name any in particular, nor do I have to lol.
My thoughts exactly.
 

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Escorting is ok for a good time but tbh even that hobby (business) has become filled with lazy/over weight and over priced vaginaa .

It’s been inflated by the “ho3” culture that has been going on for the last decade or so. Women demand more but offer less.

The best way to put it is before the advent of a smartphone in everyones hand. A “working girl” actually had to keep clients. Now if she blows of some dude knowing he will not call her back she can have another client come within in minutes. That mixed with Instagram, only fans (the majority of where the new working girls go) and twitch etc their just aren’t any girl

the industry has turned into over inflation and leftover women who haven’t made the change to newer avenues for ho3ing. What’s left for the traditional escorting are uglys, drug addicts/felons and women who have burned every other bridge in their life.


Escorting has is place, if your grinding and don’t have time/money to do dating it can create a vice for women. Along with other benefits that have been stated.

the problem you’ll find with escorting is kinda the same as dealing with a single mother in her late 30s. She single for a reason and doing this because she can’t find a man. So yes you don’t necessary deal with the girl1 hour once a week/month/day will rub of on you one way of the other. Making the situation more detrimental to your mental state.

The biggest draw back to escorting (and if you don’t understand this you should do it) compared to a normal gf she will have passion for you. Unless you catch an escort on a good day she will not have passion for the deed. It’s the nature of the business, when she just f’d 3 guys the day before.
 

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Im replying to the Original Post



Escorts are better than civvies
This can be true and valid for you and most members of escort forums. But the opposite can also be true for most members on this website. "Cada quien habla como le fue en la feria"




What are your thoughts?
- Its possible to have good or bad sex with both civvies or escorts.
- Escorts can be cheaper than civvies and viceversa.
- Most guys (not all) who have "never paid" for sex like to go around on a high horse telling everyone about it.
- Escorts, trannies, gays discussions should be in the Anything Else forum.
- "Escorts vs Civvies" sometimes feel like apples & oranges comparisons.
- You are more likely to get an std from spinning plates than from a prostitute on Amsterdam´s red light district.
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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Escorting is ok for a good time but tbh even that hobby (business) has become filled with lazy/over weight and over priced vaginaa .

It’s been inflated by the “ho3” culture that has been going on for the last decade or so. Women demand more but offer less.

The best way to put it is before the advent of a smartphone in everyones hand. A “working girl” actually had to keep clients. Now if she blows of some dude knowing he will not call her back she can have another client come within in minutes. That mixed with Instagram, only fans (the majority of where the new working girls go) and twitch etc their just aren’t any girl

the industry has turned into over inflation and leftover women who haven’t made the change to newer avenues for ho3ing. What’s left for the traditional escorting are uglys, drug addicts/felons and women who have burned every other bridge in their life.


Escorting has is place, if your grinding and don’t have time/money to do dating it can create a vice for women. Along with other benefits that have been stated.

the problem you’ll find with escorting is kinda the same as dealing with a single mother in her late 30s. She single for a reason and doing this because she can’t find a man. So yes you don’t necessary deal with the girl1 hour once a week/month/day will rub of on you one way of the other. Making the situation more detrimental to your mental state.

The biggest draw back to escorting (and if you don’t understand this you should do it) compared to a normal gf she will have passion for you. Unless you catch an escort on a good day she will not have passion for the deed. It’s the nature of the business, when she just f’d 3 guys the day before.
Tinder is a better, though less certain, option.
 

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The only way I could imagine seeing a prostitute was if I was on a business trip on a weekday. Was super horny. Just pay a ho*ker to come by & blow me.
 

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It does seem to have allot of variety of options on there, in contrast with incel - no options, etc.... or even a guy with very scarce options with women he does not like all that much but bends to like them because they like him, etc....

Have you gone on any spree where you've visted multiple escorts within a very short period of time? Or anything nasty like do anal with one escort and do bareback oral with another escort within the same day? When I had that problem in the past, it was on a spree where three escort locations were visited in the space of almost 24 hours, and I ditched one location and went to another one across town because it was $20 cheaper. Anyway the whole thing made me feel totally off, like some pagan/heathen and I couldn't handle that at all. Again, this was back in 2014 and something that has been buried as a memory for a very long time. Do you think you could handle visiting multiple women on the same day or short period of time or would you feel sick with that?

This is what chads probably do with girls on Tinder if they are lining up a bunch of first-date lays right?
Back in 2016, I banged one escort one night. Then another escort the next night.

Then in 2017, an escort cut the session short before I climaxed. Right after she left, I ordered another escort.

At my current age, I wouldn't do anything like that again.

Since I'm not a Tinder Chad, I'm not sure what Tinder Chads do.
 

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Escorting is ok for a good time but tbh even that hobby (business) has become filled with lazy/over weight and over priced vaginaa .

It’s been inflated by the “ho3” culture that has been going on for the last decade or so. Women demand more but offer less.

The best way to put it is before the advent of a smartphone in everyones hand. A “working girl” actually had to keep clients. Now if she blows of some dude knowing he will not call her back she can have another client come within in minutes. That mixed with Instagram, only fans (the majority of where the new working girls go) and twitch etc their just aren’t any girl

the industry has turned into over inflation and leftover women who haven’t made the change to newer avenues for ho3ing. What’s left for the traditional escorting are uglys, drug addicts/felons and women who have burned every other bridge in their life.


Escorting has is place, if your grinding and don’t have time/money to do dating it can create a vice for women. Along with other benefits that have been stated.

the problem you’ll find with escorting is kinda the same as dealing with a single mother in her late 30s. She single for a reason and doing this because she can’t find a man. So yes you don’t necessary deal with the girl1 hour once a week/month/day will rub of on you one way of the other. Making the situation more detrimental to your mental state.

The biggest draw back to escorting (and if you don’t understand this you should do it) compared to a normal gf she will have passion for you. Unless you catch an escort on a good day she will not have passion for the deed. It’s the nature of the business, when she just f’d 3 guys the day before.
You're right about escort inflation. I've had an obese escort charge me $500 (Her base price was $300. Then she added an extra hundred for kissing. Then an extra hundred for fetish)
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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