"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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tbhforever

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how can i START to flirt with a girl, i realized what my trouble is is starting out.
i feel like if i do then the girl will think it came out of nowhere and awkward.

if a girl flirts with me first then i can just come back with some good stuff and make them like me.

what are some basic lines/things i can do to go from normal mode to game mode.
of course im not gonna repeat exactly what you say but i just need some examples and stuff to give me the right idea
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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eaglez1177

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Well to me it seems like you want to flirt with her, but your worried you may over-do it/come on too hard. In that case, just start out with very simple, basic flirting, but make it strong enough that she knows you're actually flirting with her and not just being friendly/nice. Also, you cant expect a girl to flirt with you first, so you should always be the one to initiate things. Girls like a guy that has confidence and balls, so go ahead and show her.

There are no actual canned lines/things I can tell you about to flirt with her, but instead read up on the techniques used in the DJ Bible (read it), and then apply that to your every day self, attitude, and talking.

It also seems you need to work on your inner game and build up your confidence, because that would explain why you have trouble "starting out".

Theres so many other things when it comes to flirting, such as kino, ****y and funny, neg hits, body language, etc. I cant go through them all but if you go through the DJ bible you will understand what im saying.
 

Ice882

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eaglez1177 said:
Well to me it seems like you want to flirt with her, but your worried you may over-do it/come on too hard. In that case, just start out with very simple, basic flirting, but make it strong enough that she knows you're actually flirting with her and not just being friendly/nice. Also, you cant expect a girl to flirt with you first, so you should always be the one to initiate things. Girls like a guy that has confidence and balls, so go ahead and show her.
What is it that distinguishes flirty language from friendly language, though? What keys a girl in to subtle flirting? I ask because I sometimes end up FZed because I don't come on strong enough.
 

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ESCALATING is about kino and touching her. No lines/phrases required. Let your body language do the speaking for itself. Too many guys here (especially in the HS forum) are afraid of escalating because they don't want to come off horny or perverted. Guess what guys, you're all men. It's hard coded into our genes to want to sleep with as many woman as we possibly can. There is no shame in that. Always escalate until you can't no more. I don't care how "innocent" you think this girl is. Every girl likes to be touched. Every girl wants a man to hold them, and kiss them, take off their panties and fvck them like the wild animals they are. Got nothing to say? Then touch her.
 
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